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#61 CaptainRafalski

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 07:09 PM

To be as successful as Marty has been, you have to believe you are the best. Any athlete who is or was at the top of his position in any sport does. It's those same qualities that get a player to the top level that make it hard for them to give up their spot. Guys like Jordan and Favre had the same issue.

When you've been one of the best at something nearly your entire life, it's not just flipping a switch to "ok I'm done now".


There have been quite a bit of athletes who have decided to step away without letting ego get in the way . Sandy Koufax being a good example.
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Posted 12 January 2014 - 07:17 PM

BTW, I didn't see anything on NHL.com about him being unhappy.

 

Notice he didn't post a link to it. 

 

 

To be as successful as Marty has been, you have to believe you are the best. Any athlete who is or was at the top of his position in any sport does. It's those same qualities that get a player to the top level that make it hard for them to give up their spot. Guys like Jordan and Favre had the same issue.

When you've been one of the best at something nearly your entire life, it's not just flipping a switch to "ok I'm done now".

 

100% true, and unfortunately that's when the organization has to make the tough call that the player can't or won't.  Marty coming back next season shouldn't even be on the table.  My only issue with the nhl.com article that LD seems to be referencing (but not linking) is that Marty seems to think it's up to him whether or not he plays next year for the Devils.  Rangers made the mistake of not telling Messier it was time.  Devils will have done the same thing is Marty is back next year.     


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Posted 12 January 2014 - 07:20 PM

There have been quite a bit of athletes who have decided to step away without letting ego get in the way . Sandy Koufax being a good example.

 

Terrible example.  Koufax pitched through excruciating pain during his final season.  It was a miracle he not only pitched that final year, but pitched so damned well. 

 

But yeah, there have been guys who got out before it ever got embarrassing or ugly for them.  John Elway left the game and went out on top...had one of his finest seasons in his final year. 


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[Mark Messier]: A big, bald attention whore with a stupid Easter Island-lookin face. - from who else? DaneykoIsGod!

Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
- Most priceless quote ever posted on a message board.

Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 08:32 PM

Okay guys. I can vouch for what LD said. When he said it I checked that moment and their was a article on it but now their is no longer a article for it but I can vouch and say I did see what he was talking about.
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Posted 12 January 2014 - 08:35 PM

I hope this isn't what he's referring to.

 

http://www.nhl.com/i...id=nhl:topheads

 

"When you think about back-to-back [games], you think you're going to get one of them," Brodeur said. "But I guess at 27 years old I was playing back-to-back games too."


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Posted 12 January 2014 - 08:36 PM

It is Mike. That's exactly what I read after he said it.
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Posted 12 January 2014 - 08:37 PM

Okay guys. I can vouch for what LD said. When he said it I checked that moment and their was a article on it but now their is no longer a article for it but I can vouch and say I did see what he was talking about.

 

I know there was an article...I read it.  Wasn't at all like LD made it sound (which is why he didn't post a link).


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Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
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Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 08:38 PM

Yeah I saw the same one didn't fit his words but just saying there was a article in general.

I know there was an article...I read it. Wasn't at all like LD made it sound (which is why he didn't post a link).


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Posted 12 January 2014 - 08:38 PM

It is Mike. That's exactly what I read after he said it.

 

That quote doesn't scream "upset" to me.  But whatever.


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Posted 12 January 2014 - 08:40 PM

I never said it did man. Just saying that there was an article. Only thing that bothers me is" his heart says stay in the NHL" I want him to pull a Patty or Dano. Devils from day one to the end. I feel that's what we all want.

That quote doesn't scream "upset" to me. But whatever.


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Posted 12 January 2014 - 11:03 PM

I never said it did man. Just saying that there was an article. Only thing that bothers me is" his heart says stay in the NHL" I want him to pull a Patty or Dano. Devils from day one to the end. I feel that's what we all want.

i could never imagine him playing in a different jersey
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Posted 12 January 2014 - 11:53 PM

Neither could I. I have tickets to the very last game just to see him play his final game.

i could never imagine him playing in a different jersey


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Posted 12 January 2014 - 11:56 PM

Neither could I. I have tickets to the very last game just to see him play his final game.

he will be back my man..bet your ass on it
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Posted 13 January 2014 - 01:06 AM

As a backup we can only hope.

he will be back my man..bet your ass on it


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Posted 13 January 2014 - 06:19 AM

As a backup we can only hope.

 

 

I have to think he is going to play SOMEWHERE next season.

 

Hopefully it is with the Devils in a backup role


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Posted 13 January 2014 - 08:22 AM

like i said IF Schneider is re-signed and IF DeBoer would make better goalie decisions. What would be the problem? All we're worried about is pushing away Cory and to lose more games maybe? but if marty is not playing well, well technically a coach shouldnt play him too much. 

 

Again don't have to say, "you'll be the backup!" if both are signed, "technically" it should be Cory's spot to be given to according to his play.

 

but yeah, with Debo who knows


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Posted 13 January 2014 - 08:25 AM

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 11:32 AM

There have been quite a bit of athletes who have decided to step away without letting ego get in the way . Sandy Koufax being a good example.

 

Right. I said some have trouble with it, not all. I you read the TG article that dmon2010 posted, you can see that he is clearly struggling with the idea of not being an every game guy anymore. It's not easy for someone to admit that their body or mind isn't where it used to be as they get older. He's been the clear cut number 1 guy in Jersey for half of his life. The team may have to make the decision for him.


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Posted 13 January 2014 - 12:00 PM

I don't ever want to see Marty in another sweater. He can back up here for 2,3,5 however many seasons he wants for all I care. Starting and finishing a career with a team has a certain special meaning for me, especially for a player of his caliber. I think it's part of the legend and it is diminished a little by closing out his last few chapters somewhere else.

Everyone (Marty, Lou, Pete, Cory) at some point as more or less acknowledged that Schneider is the new #1. This year is a bit of an anomaly as this is the first time Marty is truly sharing the net since the Terreri days. Next year will be a much cleaner transition if he does (hopefully) stay. As others noted, there's really no where for him to go and be a starter, might as well be a back up here then somewhere else. And to what harm really? If he gets 20 starts and goes 5-7-8 are we really going to piss and moan that we *maybe* could have squeezed 2-3 points out with a more qualified back up? 


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Posted 13 January 2014 - 12:11 PM

I don't ever want to see Marty in another sweater. He can back up here for 2,3,5 however many seasons he wants for all I care. Starting and finishing a career with a team has a certain special meaning for me, especially for a player of his caliber. I think it's part of the legend and it is diminished a little by closing out his last few chapters somewhere else.

Everyone (Marty, Lou, Pete, Cory) at some point as more or less acknowledged that Schneider is the new #1. This year is a bit of an anomaly as this is the first time Marty is truly sharing the net since the Terreri days. Next year will be a much cleaner transition if he does (hopefully) stay. As others noted, there's really no where for him to go and be a starter, might as well be a back up here then somewhere else. And to what harm really? If he gets 20 starts and goes 5-7-8 are we really going to piss and moan that we *maybe* could have squeezed 2-3 points out with a more qualified back up? 

 

I agree with your last paragraph to an extent, but another issue is that Kinkaid is having a great AHL year and will be 25. They may want to take their next step with him, or he may look elsewhere as well. If they honestly feel Schneider is the #1 after this season, it may be time for a clean break.


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