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#21 coldply123

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 05:43 PM

Schneider going on a tear won't help us win any more games. He's been playing pretty well and getting very little goal support still.

It's about offense, health, and the quality of play and puck movement out of the defense into the neutral zone.
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Posted 19 January 2014 - 05:52 PM

Schneider going on a tear won't help us win any more games. He's been playing pretty well and getting very little goal support still.

It's about offense, health, and the quality of play and puck movement out of the defense into the neutral zone.

How will a goaltender playing better not win us any more games?


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Posted 19 January 2014 - 06:28 PM

[quote name="Jas0nMacIsaac" post="1239912" timestamp="1390171925"]How will a goaltender playing better not win us any more games?[/

I mean considering how bad this team is at scoring goals, not to mention how awful this team is on shoot outs, we need almost elite goaltending at this point. That, of course is what we signed up for when we traded for Schneider, so he basically has to be the man going forward, and even that may not be enough.


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Posted 19 January 2014 - 06:30 PM

I can see 18 or 19 wins in that schedule


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Posted 19 January 2014 - 06:36 PM

[quote name="Jas0nMacIsaac" post="1239912" timestamp="1390171925"]

How will a goaltender playing better not win us any more games?[/

Come on. I was challenging the idea that Schnieder is going to be the key to getting more wins. He's not going to play much better than what he's been doing. If his goal support was up a bit that becomes a whole different narrative.
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Posted 19 January 2014 - 06:41 PM

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How will a goaltender playing better not win us any more games?[/

Come on. I was challenging the idea that Schnieder is going to be the key to getting more wins. He's not going to play much better than what he's been doing. If his goal support was up a bit that becomes a whole different narrative.

His goal support will go up, do you believe the team will continue to shoot 6% with him in nets? If he got the Brodeur 3 goal support his record would be 14 - 1 - 8...that is asssuming he loses every SO game. If he wins half the SO games his record is now 18 - 1 - 4


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Posted 19 January 2014 - 06:51 PM

Let's Go Devils.
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Posted 19 January 2014 - 07:09 PM

His goal support will go up, do you believe the team will continue to shoot 6% with him in nets? If he got the Brodeur 3 goal support his record would be 14 - 1 - 8...that is asssuming he loses every SO game. If he wins half the SO games his record is now 18 - 1 - 4


Yes I believe we are that bad offensively and our coaching isn't helping. We play a completely different style wih schneider in net and the transition game out of our own zone looks putrid when he's in goal. How much of this is coaching and the defensive carousel I wouldn't know but it's not as simple as just shooting more.
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Posted 19 January 2014 - 07:18 PM

Yes I believe we are that bad offensively and our coaching isn't helping. We play a completely different style wih schneider in net and the transition game out of our own zone looks putrid when he's in goal. How much of this is coaching and the defensive carousel I wouldn't know but it's not as simple as just shooting more.


Coaching is not the problem. How good do you think most teams would be if Jagr were their number 1 offensive threat? He was a supporting player on Dallas, and they didn't do so well last year.

If I took Kane and say Hossa away from Chicago, they would not be that great. That's what DeBoer has had to deal with, and the team hasn't disintegrated. That's the sign of good coaching.

He does some baffling things, and I wish he wouldn't ride Marty as much as he does, but we are very lucky to have him.


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Posted 19 January 2014 - 07:55 PM

I can see 18 or 19 wins in that schedule

 

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 10:21 PM

Wow the season has flown by, this most back to backs in the league schedule has really sucked. I feel like I've hardly gotten to see any games


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Posted 20 January 2014 - 12:49 AM

ive watched almost every game but can't believe how much of the season has gone by already .. going to be sad when theres no devils hockey to watch
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Posted 20 January 2014 - 09:36 AM

We definitely have the easiest schedule out of teams like Philly, Washington, maybe the Rangers. None of those games are locks though. Devils can beat the Penguins and the Rangers 3 times in a row but then lose to Edmonton. That's been the reality of the 2013-2014 season.


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Posted 20 January 2014 - 10:05 AM

Wow the season has flown by, this most back to backs in the league schedule has really sucked. I feel like I've hardly gotten to see any games

 

ive watched almost every game but can't believe how much of the season has gone by already .. going to be sad when theres no devils hockey to watch

it gets worse every year as you get older!!! LOL  TIME STARTS FLYING!


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Posted 20 January 2014 - 10:45 AM

I'm gonna predict the number of points we're gonna get from each team in the remaining games.  Here goes......

 

Boston: 1

Buffalo: 2

Carolina: 3

Columbus: 2

Calgary: 2

Colorado: 0

Dallas: 2

Detroit: 3

Edmonton: 2

Panthers: 4

Wild: 2

Predators: 2

Islanders: 4

Rangers: 2

Senators: 2

Flyers: 1

Coyotes: 2

Sharks: 1

Blues: 0

Maple Leafs: 2

Capitals: 4

 

TOTAL: 43

GRAND TOTAL: 94 overall


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Posted 20 January 2014 - 10:50 AM

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Posted 20 January 2014 - 11:25 AM

I'm gonna predict the number of points we're gonna get from each team in the remaining games.  Here goes......

 

TOTAL: 43

GRAND TOTAL: 94 overall

 

11 games over NHL .500 over their last 32 GP?  Basically 20-9-3, 19-8-5, or 18-7-7?  Hell, I think 17-8-7 is probably too optimistic (92 points), and I think that's possible only if damned near every last thing breaks right.  A while ago I thought they'd finish with 82-86.  I think they still finish in the upper part of that range. 

 

I thinking the best they'll probably do is 6 over NHL .500 (17-11-4,16-10-6, or 15-9-8)...that would give them 89 points, which according to the link above would give them a little better than a 50-50 chance of getting in.  The absolute most I can hope for with this team is 92 points, and that seems like a real longshot.   


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Posted 20 January 2014 - 11:55 AM

His goal support will go up, do you believe the team will continue to shoot 6% with him in nets? If he got the Brodeur 3 goal support his record would be 14 - 1 - 8...that is asssuming he loses every SO game. If he wins half the SO games his record is now 18 - 1 - 4

 

The Devils are the team that defies the odds. Remember when we were like "sh!t the Devil have lost 6 shootouts in a row? that's bound to change...this can't continue"

 

12 and counting

 

So yes. We will continue to shoot 6% with him in nets. Or worse


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Posted 20 January 2014 - 12:41 PM

Coaching is not the problem. How good do you think most teams would be if Jagr were their number 1 offensive threat? He was a supporting player on Dallas, and they didn't do so well last year.

If I took Kane and say Hossa away from Chicago, they would not be that great. That's what DeBoer has had to deal with, and the team hasn't disintegrated. That's the sign of good coaching.

He does some baffling things, and I wish he wouldn't ride Marty as much as he does, but we are very lucky to have him.


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Posted 20 January 2014 - 05:38 PM

Short-term trend extrapolation: 9 points in past 7 games = 41 points in remaining games and probably in the the playoffs
Slightly longer short-term extrapolation: 11 pts in past 10 games = 35 pts in remaining games and probably out
Long-term trend extrapolation: 48 pts in last 43 games (since the season-opening 7 losses) = 36 pts which is still probably not enough
So in end, the team has to play better than it has (we all knew that). But what do not know and cannot control is by how much. If only somebody could run several million simulations of the remainder of the season...

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Interesting data in there. They came up with a 48.7% chance for the Devils to make it. Most of that (35.2 percentage points) comes from NJ finishing in the 89-95 pt range. Below that is unlikely to make the playoffs, and above is unlikely for the team to achieve. So that objective analysis seems to be rosier than fan opinion, which isn't too surprising.
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