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#61 ThreeCups

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 10:15 PM

When I say Brett Favre, I mean hanging on for the sake of hanging on, not making a decision on retirement, and making it hard for your team to make a decision. I always applauded Green Bay for making the decision to go with Rodgers, not because I thought Favre was done, but because it was time to take the next step. I also felt the Colts/Manning split was best for both.

 

I think some Colts fans may feel differently right about now...

 

EDIT:  Marty needs to get to 700


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 10:20 PM

I think some Colts fans may feel differently right about now...

 

EDIT:  Marty needs to get to 700

 

Right now, sure. But Denver is built to win now. Indy will be a powerhouse in the near future. They have a lot of good young pieces, and Luck is already breaking some records.  That's why I said it works out for both… Peyton is on a contender now, and Luck gives Indy stability for a decade at least if he continues his learning curve. 

 

Marty hitting 700 might be a stretch, even if he comes back next year. Cory should be getting a solid 60 starts next season. 


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 10:25 PM

Right now, sure. But Denver is built to win now. Indy will be a powerhouse in the near future. They have a lot of good young pieces, and Luck is already breaking some records.  That's why I said it works out for both… Peyton is on a contender now, and Luck gives Indy stability for a decade at least if he continues his learning curve. 

 

Marty hitting 700 might be a stretch, even if he comes back next year. Cory should be getting a solid 60 starts next season. 

 

No way Peyton could have lead the Colts to another title?!?

 

Marty hits 700 easily if he returns next year


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 10:36 PM

No way colts fans are upset with the situation, I would sacrifice manning for a 2-3 year window to win the sb to gain Luck for another 10-15 years of probably elite QB play. Even if The broncos win this year and its all manning, Luck is the real deal and I find it hard to believe he doesn't have a super bowl win or 2 in him. That KC game probably has all Colts fans hugely excited for the future. The interceptions will be fixed with coaching and more experience, what he did in that game can't be coached.


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 10:57 PM

I was saying on the chat the other day...of all the things people have been pissed at Pete about...be it the playing of Brodeur too much, the absolute lock of a spot given o Salvador even though he is awful and there are much better options, the spot and the minutes given to Gionta, Janssen getting in games, the 7 defenseman-11 forwards bit, Larsson getting scratched, Fayne starting the year scratched, the lack of playing time or the opportunity given to guys like Josefson, Loktionov, Tedenby....

 

So all those things, but 95% of the fans would be angrier if he started Cory over Marty for the outdoor game. Even if it showed that he was finally putting politics aside and making a decision on what 100% gives the Devils the best chance to win. For many fans it would really ruin what should be a special day no matter what.

 

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So it is kind of amusing in a way. A little hypocritical. I am on the Marty boat too, but this has to be it for giving Brodeur any special treatment. After Sunday, Pete has to forget names, forget legacies and focus on just right now. Treat them as just two regular goalies. One of them has a .928 save percentage and the other has a .905. If this year isn't enough, go ahead and look back at the last 3 years. It's really really really simple.

 

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 11:12 PM

No way Peyton could have lead the Colts to another title?!?

 

Marty hits 700 easily if he returns next year

 

Peyton may have lead the Colts to one. Who knows. But they had the #1 pick and a chance to get a second consecutive franchise QB. They made the right call. 

 

I guess Marty could hit 700, but with how he's playing plus the fact that he's clearly a backup now, it could be very difficult. 


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Posted 25 January 2014 - 03:58 AM

"I think I'll start to think about [Sunday] on the way home," DeBoer said. "It's going to be a great day. It's Yankee Stadium and it's the Rangers. It's a once in a lifetime experience and I'm excited about it."

DeBoer said Schneider was his best player against the Capitals.

"Cory has given us great goaltending," DeBoer said. "He was the difference [Friday]."

DeBoer wouldn't reveal whether Schneider or Martin Brodeur would start Sunday.

"I'll sleep on it and make a decision first thing [Saturday]," DeBoer said.

Asked about the possibility of starting Sunday, Schneider remained humble.

"It's a special game and Marty has been a big part of this franchise," Schneider said. "He's gotten a lot of wins for us this year. Whether he picks him or me, I don't think it changes the way we feel about it. We both trust each other and respect the way we're playing. If he chooses me, it's great, but this is a game that would probably mean a lot to Marty, having never played an outdoor game in his career.

"I'm sure he would really enjoy it."
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Posted 25 January 2014 - 05:13 AM

"I think I'll start to think about [Sunday] on the way home," DeBoer said. "It's going to be a great day. It's Yankee Stadium and it's the Rangers. It's a once in a lifetime experience and I'm excited about it."
DeBoer said Schneider was his best player against the Capitals.
"Cory has given us great goaltending," DeBoer said. "He was the difference [Friday]."
DeBoer wouldn't reveal whether Schneider or Martin Brodeur would start Sunday.
"I'll sleep on it and make a decision first thing [Saturday]," DeBoer said.
Asked about the possibility of starting Sunday, Schneider remained humble.
"It's a special game and Marty has been a big part of this franchise," Schneider said. "He's gotten a lot of wins for us this year. Whether he picks him or me, I don't think it changes the way we feel about it. We both trust each other and respect the way we're playing. If he chooses me, it's great, but this is a game that would probably mean a lot to Marty, having never played an outdoor game in his career.
"I'm sure he would really enjoy it."


Cory is a class act and a terrific goalie.
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Posted 25 January 2014 - 07:52 AM

I was saying on the chat the other day...of all the things people have been pissed at Pete about...be it the playing of Brodeur too much, the absolute lock of a spot given o Salvador even though he is awful and there are much better options, the spot and the minutes given to Gionta, Janssen getting in games, the 7 defenseman-11 forwards bit, Larsson getting scratched, Fayne starting the year scratched, the lack of playing time or the opportunity given to guys like Josefson, Loktionov, Tedenby....

 

So all those things, but 95% of the fans would be angrier if he started Cory over Marty for the outdoor game. Even if it showed that he was finally putting politics aside and making a decision on what 100% gives the Devils the best chance to win. For many fans it would really ruin what should be a special day no matter what.

 

https://twitter.com/...923519369166848

 

https://twitter.com/...915896406605824

 

So it is kind of amusing in a way. A little hypocritical. I am on the Marty boat too, but this has to be it for giving Brodeur any special treatment. After Sunday, Pete has to forget names, forget legacies and focus on just right now. Treat them as just two regular goalies. One of them has a .928 save percentage and the other has a .905. If this year isn't enough, go ahead and look back at the last 3 years. It's really really really simple.

 

http://www.hockey-re...der_by=save_pct (Scott Cullen's link)

 

I think, as far as bones go, the outdoor game is the last one Devils fans are willing to throw him (I think most of them also want to see Marty retire after this season).  Include me in that group.  I don't need to see him limp to 700 wins either.  He'll probably be around 686 or so by the end of the season.  Will 14 more victories really make any difference, as far as his legacy goes?   

 

At this point, I think we all want to see the guy who gives the Devils the best chance to win playing as many games as possible.  I don't kid myself...the Devils will have 29 games left after Sunday, and there's no way Cory will start them all.  There's seven back-to-backs after the Olympic break.  It's just a guess, but I think Marty probably gets 7-10 of the remaining 29 games, depending on his play.  Can't see it being any more or any less. 


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Posted 25 January 2014 - 11:43 AM

Cory is a class act and a terrific goalie.

yea he seems to be a well put together character .. i like the dude and hes an animal between the pipes.. i hope he signs a nice meaty deal here
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Posted 25 January 2014 - 12:01 PM

a goalie situation like this must be a little like 2 good friends going for the same girl. You act like it's cool while trying to prove yourself and do more than the other guy while pretending you're 100% okay with it.


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Posted 25 January 2014 - 12:08 PM

personally I think i want Brodeur to get the game, Cory is obviously better and on paper id pick him but this is a special game and eventhough Marty can be shacky at times, he can still get it done and win games so everything considered i'd put marty but no matter what happen i'd put Cory next game.

 

basically for everything Marty did for the franchise, this would be great for him and its not as if its automatically costing us games by putting him so.


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Posted 25 January 2014 - 12:12 PM

a goalie situation like this must be a little like 2 good friends going for the same girl. You act like it's cool while trying to prove yourself and do more than the other guy while pretending you're 100% okay with it.

 

I could see that, but to make a guess, I'm thinking if everything stays the same (Cory continues to get more and more playing time), Marty will see it more as almost being cast aside and forgotten, maybe even as a bit of a slight.  I don't think he'll ever think of himself as anything less than a capable, above-average NHL goaltender who is at his best when he's playing a lot of games, no matter how old he is or what the numbers say.  I don't doubt he'll support Cory and the Devils publicly and elsewhere, but I don't think starting three or so games per 10 has him tickled...and I don't think he's convinced deep-down that this is really what's best for the team, because he'll never stop believing in himself. 


Edited by Colorado Rockies 1976, 25 January 2014 - 12:21 PM.

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Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 12:20 PM

I could see that, but to make a guess, I'm thinking if everything stays the same (Cory continues to get more and more playing time), Marty will see it more as almost being cast aside and forgotten, maybe even as a bit of a slight. I don't think he'll ever think of himself as anything less than a capable, above-average NHL goaltender who is at his best when he's playing a lot of games, no matter how old he is or what the numbers say. I don't doubt he'll support Cory and the Devils publicly and elsewhere, but I don't think starting three or so games per 10 has him tickled...and I don't think he convinced deep-down that this is really what's best for the team, because he'll never stop believing in himself.


Absolutely agree with most of that. Top athletes need that confidence. It's going to be up to the team to step in and make the decision this offseason. I'd prefer Marty to step down on his own, but it's hard to accept that your body isn't what it was.
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Posted 26 January 2014 - 03:31 PM

I still think this was a good game for Marty to start, and that scares me. A lot. If he can't make a save against a team he knows, on a weird surface where it's hard to pass, how's he gonna do better on good ice against anyone else? I know he's sometimes better, but if I'm the Devils and he's playing, I have no confidence.


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