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#21 Jas0nMacIsaac

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 02:28 PM

Wow a Brodeur trade would be amazing, especially if someone pays a 2nd or 3rd for him.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 02:33 PM

I doubt Lou will even consider it. Not like anyone's gonna give us anything above a 5th or 6th anyway, let's be honest. And I don't want Marty's career to end here that way. Trading him for a low-round pick would be tough to take as a fan.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 02:35 PM

And that's probably not even true.  He keeps his answers short with no substance, it's obviously a sign that he's disgruntled and secretly plotting with Jeff Gilooly and Tanya Harding to have Cory's knee bashed in in the parking lot after practice.

 

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I doubt Lou will even consider it. Not like anyone's gonna give us anything above a 5th or 6th anyway, let's be honest. And I don't want Marty's career to end here that way. Trading him for a low-round pick would be tough to take as a fan.

 

 

Seeing Marty in another team's jersey, even if for a couple of months would be tough to swallow

 

Hopefully he just rides out the rest of the season and keeps disturbances to a minimum


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 02:35 PM

If someone wants to give something for him, hell even a 3rd rounder - you have to take it. I'd rather have KK as the backup the rest of the season - so as PDB doesn't feel forced to play him.

 

Say somehow the Devils get down to the wire and they've had a win streak at somepoint (I'm not holding my breath) - but with the last home game of the year is a WIN and you're IN type of situation...Cory is the better goaltender, but it could be Marty's last home game ever....what do you do?

 

I play Cory, duh....but does PDB?


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 02:42 PM

What did I miss between Marty and Pete?

 

imo.. this has nothing to do with DeBoer, and everything to do with LL. I do feel (to a large extent) that a big reason Marty seems to want to leave, would be to spite Lou. Someone on HF who claims to know Denis Brodeur, said that Marty was completely blindsided by the Schneider trade.. and he barely spoke to Lou afterward for weeks.
How different would this season look with Marty & Moose? The Devils as a team would probably be worse.. however, Marty would have played more games.. thus, more wins (which would make him closer to 700) enough so that perhaps he'd possible might've even been able to hit it this season. There would be no Schneider to be compared to all season.. meaning; considerably less pressure. Not only wasn't Hedberg a threat, but Moose was also a good friend of Marty's. With that said.. there wouldn't be as much of a backlash for him to return next season. (because there would be no Schneider to worry about) It fvcked up everything for Brodeur. It threw a monkey-wrench in his entire retirement tour\plan. and I think he harbors resentment towards Lou as a result.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 02:42 PM

I think Ryan Miller being on the market ruins any chance of Marty getting moved, unless 2 teams happen to be looking for high paid rental goalies.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 02:51 PM

Seeing Marty in another team's jersey, even if for a couple of months would be tough to swallow

 

Hopefully he just rides out the rest of the season and keeps disturbances to a minimum

 

Sadly, here's what I see happening:

 

Lou tells Marty they're not bringing him back, in as diplomatic fashion as possible.

Marty doesn't rip or criticize the Devils in any way, but insists that he still has something left. 

He finds a team that is actually willing to take a chance on him, for whatever the reason.

Marty plays 6-10 games, maybe finds a way to win one or two, but really has a rough time.  Not .899 save%, 2.52 GAA rough.  More like .850ish, 3.50+ GAA, there's-no-doubt-about-it-now-Marty-really-IS-done rough.  (Think Miikka Kiprusoff or Martin Biron at the end.)  Marty realizes with finality that it's truly over, but only after it got beyond ugly playing for another team.

 

Hope this never comes to pass. 

 

EDIT:  and if it ever did...I hope to GOD that, if he is playing for another team, and that team plays the Devils at the Rock, and Marty's struggling, that his coach doesn't put him in.  I can handle Marty playing for another team briefly as a result of hanging on too long, but I think if he ever got lit up by the Devils in what used to be his building...that would be painful and way too much to take. 


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 02:54 PM

If someone wants to give something for him, hell even a 3rd rounder - you have to take it. I'd rather have KK as the backup the rest of the season - so as PDB doesn't feel forced to play him.

 

Say somehow the Devils get down to the wire and they've had a win streak at somepoint (I'm not holding my breath) - but with the last home game of the year is a WIN and you're IN type of situation...Cory is the better goaltender, but it could be Marty's last home game ever....what do you do?

 

I play Cory, duh....but does PDB?

 

In that scenario I would have to think it's Cory


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 02:57 PM

Sadly, here's what I see happening:

 

Lou tells Marty they're not bringing him back, in as diplomatic fashion as possible.

Marty doesn't rip or criticize the Devils in any way, but insists that he still has something left. 

He finds a team that is actually willing to take a chance on him, for whatever the reason.

Marty plays 6-10 games, maybe finds a way to win one or two, but really has a rough time.  Not .899 save%, 2.52 GAA rough.  More like .850ish, 3.50+ GAA, there's-no-doubt-about-it-now-Marty-really-IS-done rough.  (Think Miikka Kiprusoff or Martin Biron at the end.)  Marty realizes with finality that it's truly over, but only after it got beyond ugly playing for another team.

 

Hope this never comes to pass. 

 

Would certainly be a travesty and I hope it does not come to that...

 

Is everyone here dead set against him coming back in a backup role next season?  If it was a known thing and he even acknowledged he would only start about 20 games?!?

 

Before I can say Marty isn't even backup quality I need to see a few more games...but he is definitely very close to the ugly end


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 03:07 PM

Would certainly be a travesty and I hope it does not come to that...

 

Is everyone here dead set against him coming back in a backup role next season?  If it was a known thing and he even acknowledged he would only start about 20 games?!?

 

Before I can say Marty isn't even backup quality I need to see a few more games...but he is definitely very close to the ugly end

 

It's been discussed...I just don't think he'll ever truly think of himself that way, no matter what he might say.  And I don't think it's something he'll ever truly be comfortable with, mentally or physically.  The Devils don't look like the kind of team that will be able to give away too many points the next few seasons.  The Devils backup, if he's starting 20 games, probably needs to give his team a legitimate chance to come away with 50-60% of the points available in those games.  If Marty declines further and becomes an .880-.890 save% guy, I don't see how that's possible.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 03:14 PM

In that scenario I would have to think it's Cory


If Pete's still the coach by then it'll be Marty in the last game of the season unfortunately.
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Posted 29 January 2014 - 03:18 PM

And that's probably not even true.  He keeps his answers short with no substance, it's obviously a sign that he's disgruntled and secretly plotting with Jeff Gilooly and Tanya Harding to have Cory's knee bashed in in the parking lot after practice.

 

so, exactly like the cory vs luongo reference then.

 

 

go to 1:10


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 04:03 PM

If someone wants to give something for him, hell even a 3rd rounder - you have to take it. I'd rather have KK as the backup the rest of the season - so as PDB doesn't feel forced to play him.

 

Say somehow the Devils get down to the wire and they've had a win streak at somepoint (I'm not holding my breath) - but with the last home game of the year is a WIN and you're IN type of situation...Cory is the better goaltender, but it could be Marty's last home game ever....what do you do?

 

I play Cory, duh....but does PDB?

 

Yikes.  Cory is the obvious choice, but "Marty's earned it!"

 

Although, didn't Marty duck out of a game at the garden last year after the playoffs were out of the equation?  Maybe he'd do the same this year if it was made abundantly clearly that he wasn't being brought back.

 

EDIT:  and if it ever did...I hope to GOD that, if he is playing for another team, and that team plays the Devils at the Rock, and Marty's struggling, that his coach doesn't put him in.  I can handle Marty playing for another team briefly as a result of hanging on too long, but I think if he ever got lit up by the Devils in what used to be his building...that would be painful and way too much to take. 

 

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit at the thought of this.  Ugh that'd be awful.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 04:06 PM

so, exactly like the cory vs luongo reference then.

 

 

That Luongo poetry is amazing.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 04:07 PM

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit at the thought of this.  Ugh that'd be awful.

 

Agree, but I could almost see Marty seeing it as yet another challenge he could overcome (I know this doesn't have a great chance of happening, but it's not impossible either). 


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 04:12 PM

wow some of you guys really think to some extremes with your future forecasts here
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Posted 29 January 2014 - 04:19 PM

wow some of you guys really think to some extremes with your future forecasts here

 

If it's one thing being a sports fan tells you in this era, in all sports, a lot of wacky things can happen.  Look at all of the Red Sox players who've played for the Yankees, and vice versa.  Think Sox fans ever thought Wade Boggs, Roger Clemens, and Johnny Damon would go get their rings with the Yankees (especially after Damon won one with the Sox)?   

 

I don't think the scenario I presented actually WILL happen, but I can't say I'd be shocked if it did.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 04:30 PM

I have a feeling a big trade is on the horizon for this club before the trade deadline, but I doubt it will involve Brodeur.  This is nothing more than a gut feeling but some of the events are reminding me of how the team was right before we traded for Kovy back in 2010.

 

I have a feeling we are seeing the last games of at least 1 of our younger defesemen and 1 of our regular forwards.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 04:33 PM

Wow a Brodeur trade would be amazing, especially if someone pays a 2nd or 3rd for him.

 

There's a better chance Pete scratches Gionta than that happens.  Well better meaning .000001 percent as opposed to zero.

 

At this point it wouldn't shock me if you could only get Anthony Brodeur back for Marty (i.e. a seventh-rounder).  And for that kind of meager price it ain't worth it.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 04:36 PM

Would certainly be a travesty and I hope it does not come to that...

 

Is everyone here dead set against him coming back in a backup role next season?  If it was a known thing and he even acknowledged he would only start about 20 games?!?

 

Before I can say Marty isn't even backup quality I need to see a few more games...but he is definitely very close to the ugly end

 

I think the Marty cord needs to be cut when this season ends. I said it earlier, but as long as he's around, this will always be "Marty's team". It will never be Cory's team that Marty also plays on. If he's here he will still think he has a shot at a starting job, and god forbid he plays well for a stretch. Then we are right back here in this mess.


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