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#241 Mike Brown

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 05:50 PM

I'm not quite sure what you mean by this... That gelinas is similar to niedermayer? Because I can't think of a single similarity between the two other than they are both lhd. Or do you mean their statistics are similar?

 

Niedermayer was a defensive liability early on in his career.  He was never sent down because he brought a dynamic from the blue line that no other Devils dman did.


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 05:57 PM

Niedermayer was a defensive liability early on in his career.  He was never sent down because he brought a dynamic from the blue line that no other Devils dman did.

i think it's very difficult to compare the two seeing as how it's a totally different team and era- that team had plenty of quality responsible defensemen, this team does not. I'll admit I wasn't around to see those early years live, so if you were then ill concede to your opinion.

Look I would have agreed with your assessment if you asked me 2 months ago, but look at gelinas' numbers over the past month and he has been brutal, that's putting it lightly.
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Posted 31 January 2014 - 06:09 PM

i think it's very difficult to compare the two seeing as how it's a totally different team and era- that team had plenty of quality responsible defensemen, this team does not. I'll admit I wasn't around to see those early years live, so if you were then ill concede to your opinion.

Look I would have agreed with your assessment if you asked me 2 months ago, but look at gelinas' numbers over the past month and he has been brutal, that's putting it lightly.

 

Key words in your post:  PAST MONTH

 

One month long stretch is not a reason to crucify a player the way he has been.


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 06:33 PM

Key words in your post:  PAST MONTH
 
One month long stretch is not a reason to crucify a player the way he has been.

I don't think anyone is crucifying him, just saying he is not the best option right now. Give Merrill the same chance you gave gelinas and let's see how he does. In the meantime let gelinas play in the A to work on his defense rather than stay up here and be limited to a pp specialist.
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Posted 31 January 2014 - 08:30 PM

About equal defensively? Gelly can't cover his man or get the puck out of the zone. We all love gelly but he's a liability on his own end. Merril not do much.
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Posted 31 January 2014 - 08:46 PM

I don't think anyone is crucifying him, just saying he is not the best option right now. Give Merrill the same chance you gave gelinas and let's see how he does. In the meantime let gelinas play in the A to work on his defense rather than stay up here and be limited to a pp specialist.

 

Why should I give Merrill time when you haven't given Gelinas any time?  You're basing your opinion of Gelinas off of a 20 game stretch.  I'm basing my opinion of Merrill off of a 28 game stretch.


About equal defensively? Gelly can't cover his man or get the puck out of the zone. We all love gelly but he's a liability on his own end. Merril not do much.

 

The numbers don't lie my friend.  Merrill is just as "bad" defensively as Gelinas.


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Posted 01 February 2014 - 12:29 AM

Remember when Patty and Jagr used to be tied for the all-time league lead in game-winning OT goals? Then Jagr eventually re-took the lead by a few goals at least. It's about time Patty got one. I don't think he had scored one in a long time, although I'm not sure.

 

Wow, Cangialosi said tonight (Jan. 31, Devils-Predators) that Elias' OT goal versus the Stars was his first since December 2008. That's a little over five years ago. He now has 16 OT goals, good for second place in the NHL all-time. Jagr is first all-time with 18 OT goals. Five years ago, Patty was either tied with Jagr (who was out of the league at the time) for the all-time lead or one behind him; I can't remember which.

 

Either way, it's amazing that Elias went that long without scoring in OT and still ranks second all-time.


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Posted 03 February 2014 - 07:34 PM

Wow, Cangialosi said tonight (Jan. 31, Devils-Predators) that Elias' OT goal versus the Stars was his first since December 2008. That's a little over five years ago. He now has 16 OT goals, good for second place in the NHL all-time. Jagr is first all-time with 18 OT goals. Five years ago, Patty was either tied with Jagr (who was out of the league at the time) for the all-time lead or one behind him; I can't remember which.

 

Either way, it's amazing that Elias went that long without scoring in OT and still ranks second all-time.

 

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