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#261 devlman

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 03:05 PM

I don't really see the big deal with starting Marty. Schneider got six or so games in a row after Marty screwed up and we all just assumed that Cory is now the every day starter. Turns out, DeBoer is going to keep going with the hotter goalie. Marty didn't have a big game on Saturday but he won and only allowed one goal. I think it's a fair decision to start him.

 

Its not that upsetting a decision for PDB to go with Marty tomorrow. Cory has looked very rusty in his two games post-break. Marty is going to have alot of pressure and eyes on him with all the trade talk so its not unreasonable to think Marty will have a solid game. Plus, this could be his last game as a devil, at home, give him a shot. 


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Posted 03 March 2014 - 03:35 PM

I am so tired of Marty this or Marty that and who ask and who didn't ask, did they meet or didn't they meet, did he request or didn't he request, or for the good of Marty or the good of the Devils.

 

Marty needed to play out his contract with the NJ Devils and keep his mouth shut. He has done very well with the Devils financially and his son  got drafted so honor your contract Marty. You have next season to do what you want. Marty never took a cut in pay he just eliminated an agent fee.

 

fvck you Marty. I hope he gives up two or three softies tomorrow night and it puts an end to this subject. I didn't say Devils lose.

 

It is time for the NJ Devils and Devils fans to move on from Marty Brodeur's ego.


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Posted 03 March 2014 - 03:42 PM

I am so tired of Marty this or Marty that and who ask and who didn't ask, did they meet or didn't they meet, did he request or didn't he request, or for the good of Marty or the good of the Devils.

 

Marty needed to play out his contract with the NJ Devils and keep his mouth shut. He has done very well with the Devils financially and his son  got drafted so honor your contract Marty. You have next season to do what you want. Marty never took a cut in pay he just eliminated an agent fee.

 

fvck you Marty. I hope he gives up two or three softies tomorrow night and it puts an end to this subject. I didn't say Devils lose.

 

It is time for the NJ Devils and Devils fans to move on from Marty Brodeur's ego.

 

Who would have thought this would come from you, after all those years of your enthusiastic support for Marty? Times have changed.


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Posted 03 March 2014 - 03:47 PM

I am so tired of Marty this or Marty that and who ask and who didn't ask, did they meet or didn't they meet, did he request or didn't he request, or for the good of Marty or the good of the Devils.

 

Marty needed to play out his contract with the NJ Devils and keep his mouth shut. He has done very well with the Devils financially and his son  got drafted so honor your contract Marty. You have next season to do what you want. Marty never took a cut in pay he just eliminated an agent fee.

 

fvck you Marty. I hope he gives up two or three softies tomorrow night and it puts an end to this subject. I didn't say Devils lose.

 

It is time for the NJ Devils and Devils fans to move on from Marty Brodeur's ego.

 

Oh stop it. You can hardly contain your joy with this situation.


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Posted 03 March 2014 - 04:03 PM

As fans we are in for a tough time if the Devils become an organization that keeps players around for what they used to be.  As for Brodeur, he needs to understand the situation with the goal-tending position.  Like every other player in professional sports history, Brodeur replaced somebody else when it became clear that the team would have a better chance at winning with him in net.  Now it's time for him to be the guy on the way out.  He's turning 42 in May and from what I've seen he has not become a worse goalie because he forgot how to play the game but because he is getting older.

 

  He will go down as the greatest goalie to ever play the game but he is no longer a top goalie -- not even in the Devil organization.  If Brodeur feels that he continue to play in the National Hockey League then he can either a. remain on the team as a backup or a. leave the organization and play for another.  I will have no hard feelings against Brodeur if he decides that he would like to play elsewhere.  He is a free man who is allowed to choose what he would like to do on a daily basis.  Would it be better if he retired as a Devil? In my opinion, yes but like I said, its up to him.


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Posted 03 March 2014 - 04:05 PM

As for Deboer, if he thinks that he can continue to play aging veterans and keep waffling between a clear number one goalie and a 41 year old on the decline then he is a pretty bad coach because he must lack eyesight and common sense.


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Posted 03 March 2014 - 04:34 PM

Oh stop it. You can hardly contain your joy with this situation.

 

This is typical Marty you people just can't see it.

Please do ask me to elaborate.


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Posted 03 March 2014 - 04:38 PM

I'm in baby.

 

 

I said if Pete went with Brodeur after the Sharks game that I am jumping on this bandwagon. If the Devils lose this game against the Wings, the season might as well be over.

 

I think you're overreacting.  The season won't be over if we lose on Tuesday.  We have 6 or 7 losses to play with ideally.  If tomorrow is one of those 6 or 7 losses, so be it.  Detroit is one of the teams we're chasing.  But they're also not the only team we can catch to make the playoffs.  If we get to the 93 - 95 point total I'm personally aiming for, it won't matter what teams we beat, or what teams we lost to.


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Posted 03 March 2014 - 04:40 PM

I think you're overreacting.  The season won't be over if we lose on Tuesday.  We have 6 or 7 losses to play with ideally.  If tomorrow is one of those 6 or 7 losses, so be it.  Detroit is one of the teams we're chasing.  But they're also not the only team we can catch to make the playoffs.  If we get to the 93 - 95 point total I'm personally aiming for, it won't matter what teams we beat, or what teams we lost to.

 

Oh of course I am. I'm not really calling for it basically because I know this issue is just as much on Lou as anybody else. Having both goalies here to start the season was always going to be a problem.


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Posted 03 March 2014 - 05:05 PM

This is typical Marty you people just can't see it.

Please do ask me to elaborate.

 

You've been elaborating for nearly a decade. 


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Posted 03 March 2014 - 06:18 PM

You've been elaborating for nearly a decade. 

Longer and anyone who says anything that doesn't agree with his Marty synopsis is <enter some snide personal remark>.

 

So unamazed that Marty discussion makes into so many threads as of late.  Well, probably the future, too. ;)


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Posted 03 March 2014 - 07:48 PM

Longer and anyone who says anything that doesn't agree with his Marty synopsis is <enter some snide personal remark>.

 

So unamazed that Marty discussion makes into so many threads as of late.  Well, probably the future, too. ;)

 

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 09:34 AM

 

Brodeur no-doubt has his fair share of blame throughout this fiasco, with how he's dragged the media into this. But Pete DeBoer has alot of blood on his hands, in regards to making this goalie situation an absolute mess. He has completely mishandled it from the beginning.

So has Lou Lamoriello. He can not be given a free pass. Lamoriello, from the very beginning, with his "1A" nonsense to the media and his inability to properly handle the ego and fame of Martin Brodeur.

I agree. Lamoriello's quotes could have been very misleading to Brodeur in retrospect. (ie; "certainly Marty is still the starter" etc) However, DeBoer is still the main culprit as far as I'm concerned. It's okay to go back-and-forth between the two until a decision is made who to run with.. but that decision should've been made alot sooner than January. Rereading quotes from November & December, it's easy to see now how it frustrated both Brodeur & Schneider.

"I wish they'd make a decision either way, even if it's Cory. I'd rather that than going back and forth. It's harder to get in rhythm." -Brodeur
"It's frustrating not being able to play more. It’s like Groundhog Day for me. I just can’t seem to escape it." --Schneider

..my main complaint (like many) is the extremely short leash Schneidz got at the beginning of the season, where many times we would go to Brodeur, off of games that weren't even the fault of Schneider.. and it looks like we're right back to that again! Brodeur is playing tonight off a game where he only saved 18 shots against a dog-sh!t Islander team, where the Devils gave him a 6-spot in goal support. Schneider is shown the bench off a game where the Devils scored only twice, against a Sharks team with 40 wins, who's Top 5 in the league.

This is the most important game of the year for the Devils. How do you not play your best goalie?? :noclue:


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 10:32 AM

Well what i'd likely like to see happen here... 

 

Brodeur get the start... gives up like 3 goals on 5 shots, get pulled and we score 4 goals and nothing goes past Cory. we win 4-3. Teams around the league sees it. Marty remain a Devils and play only when needed and HOPEFULLY he sees that after the outdoor game and this game against Detroit was his last bone that they'd give him and HOPEFULLY realise that he's done and deserve to be playing the amount of games he should.

 

Then if he still doesnt realize... gets a pro tryout with whoever next summer but doesnt get a contract so he retires as a Devil. 

 

Not that i want him to fail but for the love of god bro, your time is over


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 12:27 PM

Still think we are a good performance from Brodeur away from re-opening the goalie situation debate. Especially, if Brodeur stays, there is a lot of internal pressure to get him more games.


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 12:33 PM

Unless Lou's now mad at Marty for leaking the trade rumors...
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Posted 04 March 2014 - 04:37 PM

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 06:11 PM

I'll wait to see the breakdown the rest of the way- After the olympic break I figured Marty would get at most 5 starts the rest of the way. With 20 games in 40 days Cory can't go every game. Well I guess he could but his level of play may suffer for it.

Another factor is that although the wings are the team we're chasing right now they're probably one of the weaker teams to give broduer since they're missing datsyuk and zetterberg.
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Posted 04 March 2014 - 10:41 PM

I'll wait to see the breakdown the rest of the way- After the olympic break I figured Marty would get at most 5 starts the rest of the way. With 20 games in 40 days Cory can't go every game. Well I guess he could but his level of play may suffer for it.

Another factor is that although the wings are the team we're chasing right now they're probably one of the weaker teams to give broduer since they're missing datsyuk and zetterberg.

Pretty much this. I was listening on the radio (got out of work late), and Matt and Sherry were saying the same thing -- the Devils are going to need to ride their backup (they think it will be Marty) a bit down the stretch with all the back to backs. This was pretty much a perfect game to rest Cory, even ignoring the sentiment. If they go back to the 1 1A thing, then I have a problem, but IMO playing Marty against a bad Isles team and an injured Detroit team is more keeping Cory fresh than anything else.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 12:29 PM

 

@TGfireandice: DeBoer said not accurate to say Schneider has taken over as No. 1. Said he took ball and ran with it before break as Brodeur did earlier

 

i want to tell myself this is PDB lying through his teeth because of the current circus, but jesus is it infuriating.


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