lol you are doing exactly what you accused me of doing- extrapolating one comment out of context to try and prove a point nobody is arguing.
Another person who takes a quote and distorts it. No one said the "locker room is lost". It might even totally turn around. You waste everyone's time if you start debating things no one is arguing.
As far as your second point goes, well, it's unoriginal and fallacious. We all know winning is the most important thing, please don't present the point in a didactic matter. Just because winning makes things better does not make false the arguments about a coach losing a locker room when not winning. It is still a coach's duty to maintain the players' unity when losing, winning, or somewhere in between.
I never argued what a coaches duty is. All I said was it's too early to say that deboer is losing the lockeroom. If we win games, nobody is concerned about the lockeroom culture, and jagr has nothing to complain about. Not sure how anything I said was such a "waste of time."- in fact I'd argue I'm trying to save everyone time by not trying to read into one players comments too much.