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#201 NewarkDevil5

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 11:27 AM

Just look up seasonal game logs...they're everywhere.  Just have to count up the wins and losses.

 

Ah, that makes sense. More work than I was intending on doing, but makes sense.

 

So, going back all the way to 2000-2001, since the turn of the millenium we've been 12-13 in playoff overtime. Not quite .500, but definitely not cursed. 5-12 in the 1990s decade with Marty personally going 3-11 in that time period. That's when we were cursed.


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Posted 07 February 2014 - 11:36 AM

 

 

All good points - yeah, I don't think NJ should go crazy and get Vanek or something like that, but if there's a deal available that doesn't impact the future significantly and can improve the 1st line LW spot, I'd consider it.  

 

I agree 100%. To me, the contract of the player being acquired is almost as important as the player himself. Rentals (especially high priced ones) are for teams looking for the extra push to legitimately contend for a cup. They are a tougher sell for a team just looking to get in. There is actually less risk for Boston trying to acquire Vanek than there is for NJ.

 

(And, obviously I'm just using Vanek as an example since he's probably this year's top rental).


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Posted 07 February 2014 - 12:00 PM

Let's just skip the deadline and make a huge play for Matt Moulson this offseason. That's who I'd like this team to target. This season at this point has left the crapshoot odds behind and is heading more towards roulette.


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Posted 07 February 2014 - 12:05 PM

Id sell clowe for a dollar right now. but NO team is touching that contract


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Posted 07 February 2014 - 12:14 PM

Id sell clowe for a dollar right now. but NO team is touching that contract

 

Well this guy might buy that for a dollar

 

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 12:43 PM

Id sell clowe for a dollar right now. but NO team is touching that contract

Ugh, not for nothing, but Clowe has been one of our better players lately


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Posted 07 February 2014 - 12:55 PM

Ugh, not for nothing, but Clowe has been one of our better players lately

 

Concussion history is a little scary, but the Devils were aware of it going in.


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Posted 07 February 2014 - 01:00 PM

Concussion history is a little scary, but the Devils were aware of it going in.

 

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 01:13 PM

Would anyone consider taking a shot at Drew Stafford on the cheap?


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Posted 07 February 2014 - 01:20 PM

Would anyone consider taking a shot at Drew Stafford on the cheap?

 

Depends on your definition of "on the cheap"


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Posted 07 February 2014 - 01:30 PM

IMO since were just on the outside of the bubble rather than look for guys we want we should consider who or what of value we'd be willing to give up for a rental. IMO a guy like stafford or camilleri (and of course vanek) couldn't be had without a decent prospect or high draft pick involved. Here is what id feel comfortable parting with at this point without considering ourselves "sellers":

Zidlicky
Fayne
Matteau
Brunner
Any of Salvador volchenkov or Harrold.
Maybe a 2015 2nd rounder.

Obviously all of those things have varying value, some may not bring back anything of substance and the higher priced rentals couldn't be had for most of them, but if anything outside of that list is involved I would hope it'd be for a player signed past this year.
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Posted 07 February 2014 - 01:44 PM

IMO since were just on the outside of the bubble rather than look for guys we want we should consider who or what of value we'd be willing to give up for a rental. IMO a guy like stafford or camilleri (and of course vanek) couldn't be had without a decent prospect or high draft pick involved. Here is what id feel comfortable parting with at this point without considering ourselves "sellers":

Zidlicky
Fayne
Matteau
Brunner
Any of Salvador volchenkov or Harrold.
Maybe a 2015 2nd rounder.

Obviously all of those things have varying value, some may not bring back anything of substance and the higher priced rentals couldn't be had for most of them, but if anything outside of that list is involved I would hope it'd be for a player signed past this year.

 

So... not that i care much about Matteau, but you'd be willing to even put the possibility that this happen...

 

1- Not giving up the 29th pick

2- Drafting Matteau

3- Burned a year of his ELC for nothing again because of Lou's mishandling of the roster

4- Trade Matteau for a guy who might not help at all and we still miss the playoffs

5- Whoever we'd get walk this summer

6- Pretty much loss our first round picks of 2012 and 2014 for absolutely nothing... and when we need it the most too.

 

i know this is a doom and gloom scenario but why would we even risk that? We took enough hits in the last few year


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Posted 07 February 2014 - 02:08 PM

Please God...

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 02:11 PM

http://www.nj.com/de...ove_coming.htmlAnton Volchenkov will not be in the Devils’ lineup when they host the Edmonton Oilers Friday night at Prudential Center.

While it would logically be Peter Harrold stepping in for Volchenkov, coach Pete DeBoer was evasive when asked who would take the Russian’s place.

“We’ll decide that after the pregame skate,” DeBoer said.

That could mean the Devils are planning a roster move, if not a trade, prior to the 3 p.m. Olympic roster freeze.


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Posted 07 February 2014 - 02:12 PM

So... not that i care much about Matteau, but you'd be willing to even put the possibility that this happen...

1- Not giving up the 29th pick
2- Drafting Matteau
3- Burned a year of his ELC for nothing again because of Lou's mishandling of the roster
4- Trade Matteau for a guy who might not help at all and we still miss the playoffs
5- Whoever we'd get walk this summer
6- Pretty much loss our first round picks of 2012 and 2014 for absolutely nothing... and when we need it the most too.

i know this is a doom and gloom scenario but why would we even risk that? We took enough hits in the last few year

IMO the history of how we drafted Matteau and the whole kovy penalty should have little bearing on how we value him in terms of potential trades. I personally see him as a third line nhler- (in 2 years) and not the answer to our scoring problems.

It's not like im looking to trade him but like I said for the right guy I would consider it.
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Posted 07 February 2014 - 02:33 PM

http://www.nj.com/de...ove_coming.htmlAnton Volchenkov will not be in the Devils’ lineup when they host the Edmonton Oilers Friday night at Prudential Center.

While it would logically be Peter Harrold stepping in for Volchenkov, coach Pete DeBoer was evasive when asked who would take the Russian’s place.

“We’ll decide that after the pregame skate,” DeBoer said.

That could mean the Devils are planning a roster move, if not a trade, prior to the 3 p.m. Olympic roster freeze.


Could we even get a defenseman from Albany on this short notice if there's a trade, since I would assume a defenseman would be the one who is traded.


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Posted 07 February 2014 - 02:36 PM

Could we even get a defenseman from Albany on this short notice if there's a trade, since I would assume a defenseman would be the one who is traded.


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If you told the defenseman to leave for NJ this morning, just in case.
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Posted 07 February 2014 - 02:49 PM

If you told the defenseman to leave for NJ this morning, just in case.


Well, we'll see in 15 minutes, although can that even be kept under wraps? Would also mean it would be either Merrill or a nothing trade.


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Posted 07 February 2014 - 03:25 PM

So no such luck, huh. No noise of a move :(

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 03:27 PM

So no such luck, huh. No noise of a move :(

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Haha a move... Nope, gonna run Salvador and Harrold out there some more. Should work out great.


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