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#381 Colorado Rockies 1976

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 08:27 AM

Keep doing what?  Did Jagr ever say those things? 

 

 

Look I apologize for insulting people's intelligence.  The problem is, you're doing the same thing by assuming I don't realize we have to jump over teams and that they have some games in hand.

 

I'm willing to trade one of our great defensive prospects for a scorer.  When you have the gold mine of defensive prospects like we do, you can spare one of them if it means getting that proven scorer we need.  If Evander Kane is available like the rumors say, I'd definitely trade Merrill+ for him.  That's just one example.  I would NOT trade any of them for a guy like Cammy or Stewart.  I would for Vanek since he's a star scorer sans Severson and Larsson.  One of Santini, Gelinas, or Merrill can be had for Vanek.

 

I'm confident they can pull this off.  Sure it sounds crazy to have any confidence since they've won 3 games in a row only once this season, but I look back at the season, and I know that they had several opportunities.  A lot of the of the 35 games they didn't win could easily have been wins.  I feel this team deserves more wins than they currently have.  On the other hand, I can think of only a couple of wins they have they didn't really deserve.  BTW, I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO READ THIS PARAGRAPH AS ME SAYING I'M BEING OPTIMISTIC.  SAYING THAT I'M CONFIDENT THEY CAN PULL THIS OFF IS NOT THE SAME AS SAYING THEY WILL MAKE THE PLAYOFFS.

 

It's definitely too early to sell which is what I've been trying to say.  It's never too early to buy though.  And with our current positioning, we need to get on that ASAP.  That's all I've been trying to say in this entire debate.  We're 3 points out.  That's it.  There's no reason to sell when you're 3 points out.

 

But the bolded all factors in Mike.  You can't just ignore or downplay that stuff, for reasons that have been previously stated...better likelihood of teams hanging around, more three-point games that will impact the race, etc.  

 

Agree in that sure, it would've been nice if Lou would've bought earlier, if he's going to buy at all.  It's really too bad that Boucher couldn't help the offense, but it was a lot to ask of him at this stage.  The problem is the sellers know they'll get their best offers near the deadline, so there's not a whole lot of motivation on their parts to sell early, unless the offer wows them.  For the Devils to wow anyone, they're going to have to cough up guys we probably don't want to see leave. 

 

I think you rent Vanek if you're 100% sure you can get to a Cup final (of course you might not get there anyway, but if you truly think you CAN, go for it).  I don't think Vanek makes the Devils a true Cup contender.  We know teams can ride a hot goalie, and that the Devils play most teams competitively, but for what Vanek would cost, I don't think the Devils should gamble that heavily.        


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 08:32 AM

But the bolded all factors in Mike.  You can't just ignore or downplay that stuff, for reasons that have been previously stated...better likelihood of teams hanging around, more three-point games that will impact the race, etc.  

 

Agree in that sure, it would've been nice if Lou would've bought earlier, if he's going to buy at all.  It's really too bad that Boucher couldn't help the offense, but it was a lot to ask of him at this stage.  The problem is the sellers know they'll get their best offers near the deadline, so there's not a whole lot of motivation on their parts to sell early, unless the offer wows them.  For the Devils to wow anyone, they're going to have to cough up guys we probably don't want to see leave. 

 

I think you rent Vanek if you're 100% sure you can get to a Cup final (of course you might not get there anyway, but if you truly think you CAN, go for it).  I don't think Vanek makes the Devils a true Cup contender.  We know teams can ride a hot goalie, and that the Devils play most teams competitively, but for what Vanek would cost, I don't think the Devils should gamble that heavily.        

 

Well can't say I disagree with any of this.


You really are a piece of work Mike. 

 

Thank you.  I take that as a compliment.


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 02:07 PM

The more I think of it, the more I think we have seen the OLD SD return 


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 02:31 PM

The more I think of it, the more I think we have seen the OLD SD return 

 

I assume your team sources are telling you this? :giggle:


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 02:37 PM

The more I think of it, the more I think we have seen the OLD SD return 

 

Oh God, his postgame comments were always "Good to see [insert player who scored here] score".  And his GDT comments prior to the game were always "Devils need to keep it going", even if they had just won seven games in a row.  I forget what kind of a streak they were on, but one time I finally said "They've been damned near lights out for a while now and lead the conference...do they really 'need' to keep it going?!"  His posts were almost like Mad Libs, with different players and teams inserted, and there wasn't ever anything I remember him posting that wasn't completely obvious already.       

 

And of course, every fringe player that was ever let go by the Devils and had two good NHL games in a row instantly became the player "that Lou let get away". 


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 02:51 PM

Oh God, his postgame comments were always "Good to see [insert player who scored here] score".  And his GDT comments prior to the game were always "Devils need to keep it going", even if they had just won seven games in a row.  I forget what kind of a streak they were on, but one time I finally said "They've been damned near lights out for a while now and lead the conference...do they really 'need' to keep it going?!"  His posts were almost like Mad Libs, with different players and teams inserted, and there wasn't ever anything I remember him posting that wasn't completely obvious already.       

 

And of course, every fringe player that was ever let go by the Devils and had two good NHL games in a row instantly became the player "that Lou let get away". 

 

To be fair, the loss of Matt Taormina is making Lou look pretty stupid....


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 02:59 PM

im confused here... "OLD SD" thats not me right?


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 03:01 PM

im confused here... "OLD SD" thats not me right?

 

Oh no.  This is someone else..

 

He was a character alright.  I still remember the "OOT Scoreboard Thread" blowup.


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 03:02 PM

im confused here... "OLD SD" thats not me right?

 

No, they're talking about a poster called SatansDevils.  His name was just as baffling as his posting style, and he posted endlessly without anything of substance to say.  I'd say he seemed like a decent guy, but he really didn't.


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 03:08 PM

Edmonton laughs at that deal.  Hall is one of the best young forwards in the game.

This.  Trades typically work by giving something you have a surplus of in return for something you need.  Hall for Henrique is like trading a steak for a hamburger. 

 

I have a lot good young defensemen but need scoring.  You have scorers to spare, but are weak on defense.  I give you one of my dman in return for one of your scorers.  OR I'm trading you a highly paid player in return for some cap room. 


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 03:08 PM

No, they're talking about a poster called SatansDevils.  His name was just as baffling as his posting style, and he posted endlessly without anything of substance to say.  I'd say he seemed like a decent guy, but he really didn't.

 

He would also sometimes claim to have inside information.  I will give him credit though that he was more or less spot on about Kovy's deal, and I looked pretty stupid when I said he was making stuff up. 


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 03:20 PM

Oh God, his postgame comments were always "Good to see [insert player who scored here] score".  And his GDT comments prior to the game were always "Devils need to keep it going", even if they had just won seven games in a row.  I forget what kind of a streak they were on, but one time I finally said "They've been damned near lights out for a while now and lead the conference...do they really 'need' to keep it going?!"  His posts were almost like Mad Libs, with different players and teams inserted, and there wasn't ever anything I remember him posting that wasn't completely obvious already.       

 

And of course, every fringe player that was ever let go by the Devils and had two good NHL games in a row instantly became the player "that Lou let get away". 

 

I don't remember that guy but it sounds kind of like Ken Daneyko between periods.


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 03:24 PM

He would also sometimes claim to have inside information.  I will give him credit though that he was more or less spot on about Kovy's deal, and I looked pretty stupid when I said he was making stuff up. 

 

You didn't look too stupid. He changed that Kovy prediction on a nearly daily basis. It was to be "announced shortly" for weeks.


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 06:49 PM

I know who exactly you guys are talking about, and I know why this conversation started.  I have been on this forum since 2009.  I actually have 2 other accounts I never use anymore (Korean Kid 23 and koolkoreankid23).  I'm getting the impression you guys are suspicious that it's me.  I wanna make this very clear.  I am not SatansDevils.


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 07:09 PM

I know who exactly you guys are talking about, and I know why this conversation started.  I have been on this forum since 2009.  I actually have 2 other accounts I never use anymore (Korean Kid 23 and koolkoreankid23).  I'm getting the impression you guys are suspicious that it's me.  I wanna make this very clear.  I am not SatansDevils.

 

I remember both of those screen names. 

 

I don't think anyone ever thought you were SatansDevils.  He had a "style" (if I could even call it that) that was all his own. 


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 07:15 PM

I remember both of those screen names. 

 

I don't think anyone ever thought you were SatansDevils.  He had a "style" (if I could even call it that) that was all his own. 

 

No one wrote like him.  I'd notice him back in 5 posts.


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 07:16 PM

I remember both of those screen names.

I don't think anyone ever thought you were SatansDevils. He had a "style" (if I could even call it that) that was all his own.

Yeah I remember those screen names as well. SatansDevils, rofl. Yeah he had quite a 'style'...


No one wrote like him. I'd notice him back in 5 posts.

Two. All it would take for me lol.


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 07:23 PM

No one wrote like him.  I'd notice him back in 5 posts.

 

Not to turn this into the "Behind the Annoyance:  the Life and Times of SatansDevils" thread, but whatever happened to him?  Did he make a big dramatic exit or did he just kind of fade away? 


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 07:40 PM

Not to turn this into the "Behind the Annoyance: the Life and Times of SatansDevils" thread, but whatever happened to him? Did he make a big dramatic exit or did he just kind of fade away?


I remember him having blowups in the Kovy signing thread and the whole OOT thing. Then I think he just started to fade out and stopped posting
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Posted 11 February 2014 - 07:51 PM

You didn't look too stupid. He changed that Kovy prediction on a nearly daily basis. It was to be "announced shortly" for weeks.


I remember he was basically on target claiming it would be a nine figure deal, but then the holding pattern started when LA made that last ditch courtship.


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