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Posted 08 April 2014 - 09:36 PM

PHEW.

 

Valverde isn't going to last. He's pretty much a 91-94 mph pitcher now who throws more than 95% fastballs up there. Worked better when he averaged 95+ and mixed in more splitters.


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Posted 08 April 2014 - 09:38 PM

PHEW.

 

Valverde isn't going to last. He's pretty much a 91-94 mph pitcher now who throws more than 95% fastballs up there. Worked better when he averaged 95+ and mixed in more splitters.

 

At 4-0, that's prob an inning to start Germen. But yea I noticed he couldn't get it up over 94 and it was all heaters

 

nonetheless he did get 4 outs that inning (through fault of his own)


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Posted 08 April 2014 - 09:48 PM

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 10:08 PM

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Throws up zeros, can't touch his toes


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Posted 08 April 2014 - 10:52 PM

Montero's 2nd start in the books, he got touched up a bit tonight: 5 IP, 6 hits, 3 runs, 1 walk, 9 strikeouts; 92 pitches, 66 strikes. 

 

The walk, 3 hits, and all 3 runs came in the 3rd inning which started with a 2-out infield single hit towards SS Wilmer Flores. Still, the key three factors under a pitcher's control (strikeouts, walks, homeruns) remain excellent. He's given up 0 homers, walked 1, and struck out 14 in 11 IP so far.


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Posted 09 April 2014 - 06:11 AM

That game had the making of the typical Turner Field Trainwreck in that ninth...glad it turned out differently. 

 

Nice little mini-recovery from 0-3...with the state of morale among Met fans, 2-5 or 1-6 would've felt almost devastating, especially with Passive's win prediction.  At least now, if they can avoid an extended losing streak, they can at least flirt with .500 for a while. 

 

Wright goes 0-for-5 in Turner.  Of course he does.  At least other guys managed to pick up the slack. 

 

Tejada is off to as good a start as could possibly be expected, especially since he appears to have no one in the organization backing him (and again, that falls on Passive...if you and others disliked the guy so much, you should've gotten off your lazy defeated ass and moved him).  .286 BA, .400 OB%...he has no power of course, and I don't expect him to keep this up, but if he can be a .265ish BA/.330ish OB% guy who occasionally hits some doubles and drives home some runs, and competently fields his position, that's really pretty good under the circumstances...basically, approaching 2011/2012 production. 

 

The Mets are batting .192 as a team, are averaging just 3.57 RPG, and have already struck out 70 times (this is by far the hardest part of watching the Mets).  They also suck at getting on base (.265).  But somehow they're 3-4.  Thank God for starting pitching:  5 QS so far, and Niese fell just 1/3rd of an inning shot of making one, and Gee would've had two if not for Terry's inability to learn when to take starting pitchers out of ballgames.  Obviously way early, and someone or multiple someones will likely get hurt (my money's on Niese), but if these guys are all pitching reasonably well into June, and Syndergaard, Montero and deGrom are all pitching well enough to get call-ups, it will be very interesting to see how this shakes out.  It will mean Sandy will have to show both a pulse and some creativity...yikes.

 

 

Montero's 2nd start in the books, he got touched up a bit tonight: 5 IP, 6 hits, 3 runs, 1 walk, 9 strikeouts; 92 pitches, 66 strikes. 

 

The walk, 3 hits, and all 3 runs came in the 3rd inning which started with a 2-out infield single hit towards SS Wilmer Flores. Still, the key three factors under a pitcher's control (strikeouts, walks, homeruns) remain excellent. He's given up 0 homers, walked 1, and struck out 14 in 11 IP so far.

 

The one thing I don't like about the bolded is that it implies that it's never the pitcher's fault when he gives up a hit...that somehow hits allowed are disproportionately the responsibility of the fielders.  Some pitchers are eminently more hittable than others, and I don't think that should be glossed over...it's a way of making some guys look better than they are (not saying I feel it applies in Montero's case).

 

That being said, any pitcher can have a tough inning, and even if some numbers aren't as pretty as Montero's first start, it's impossible not be thrilled with the numbers for him to date:

 

11 IP, 10 H, 3 ER, 0 HR, 1 BB, 14 K 

 

If Montero turns out to be a guy who gives up hits to the tune of 8.0-8.5 per nine innings in the majors, but doesn't walk anyone and can strike guys out when he needs to (and not labor the way a Wheeler-type will), I'll happily take it.


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Posted 09 April 2014 - 06:27 PM

Foul ball after foul ball on fastballs to Heyward who promptly takes Wheeler deep after a lengthy AB.

Hey there John Maine!

I just can't shake my skepticism of Wheeler. He throws hard but his control isn't good and his secondaries are mediocre.
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Posted 09 April 2014 - 06:37 PM

Another awful call against us at Turner, as d'Arnaud clearly on the bag when Simmonds throw hits the mitt.


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Posted 09 April 2014 - 06:38 PM

Unbelievable play by Simmons, best defensive SS in baseball.
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Posted 09 April 2014 - 06:50 PM

He was safe though, pretty obvious to the naked eye


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Posted 09 April 2014 - 07:00 PM

Of course just after I criticized his secondaries they look sharp now. Good slider vs RHB, nice curve to whiff Freeman. 


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Posted 09 April 2014 - 08:29 PM

This is lineup isn't good when right; add in a disabled Chris Young, EY batting leadoff, Wright and Granderson not hitting.... and it becomes an abomination. 


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Posted 09 April 2014 - 08:29 PM

Rough one for Zack.  And I understand your skepticism regarding him nmig.  We've been over it before...definitely looked good at times last season, but also definitely benefitted from tremendous good fortune. 

 

The constant laboring continues to be a concern. 

 

And yes, the lineup is bad.  The best hitter isn't the kind of guy you build a lineup around, and there's holes and easy outs seemingly everywhere else. 


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Posted 09 April 2014 - 08:47 PM

Mets rally vs Walden/Kimbrel but Tejada whiffs to end it with tying run 90 feet away. Duda also struck out earlier, on 3 pitches.

 

Thanks again for ignoring our holes, Sandy. 


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Posted 09 April 2014 - 09:29 PM

Rough one for Zack.  And I understand your skepticism regarding him nmig.  We've been over it before...definitely looked good at times last season, but also definitely benefitted from tremendous good fortune. 

 

The constant laboring continues to be a concern. 

 

 

He did finish with 18 swinging strikes, which is ridiculous (in a good way), and through 2 starts, he's walked just two batters and whiffed 12 in 11 innings. The results haven't been pretty and this is all putting way too much into small sample sizes, but the peripherals could be worse than they are.

 

Syndergaard on the mound tonight. Gave up a run in the 1st. Really fighting his control.


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Posted 09 April 2014 - 09:51 PM

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Haha I was wondering how long it would take to end the 'Duda as the guy' nonsense.  Now how long will it take before Ike's latest Spring cold streak?


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Posted 09 April 2014 - 10:49 PM

Ha.

 

Like I said Friday, this whole situation is such a mess, and they brought it upon themselves by doing absolutely nothing to address it all winter. Forget about bringing in an actual 1B to displace either Ike or Duda -- they didn't even have the guts to jettison one player because Heaven forbid the guy they gave up has an Adam LaRoche career. This situation isn't going to end until Sandy puts a stop to it; otherwise it's going to be a constant back-and-forth based on how the "starter" does for a series or two. 

 

Syndergaard really struggled tonight: 5 IP, 6 hits, 3 ER, 2 walks, 2 strikeouts. 

 

It is what it is; he's going to go through some growing pains. As much as everyone was raving about him this spring, it was easy to forget he hadn't ever pitched in AAA and needed to get better vs lefties.


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Posted 10 April 2014 - 05:53 AM

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Haha I was wondering how long it would take to end the 'Duda as the guy' nonsense.  Now how long will it take before Ike's latest Spring cold streak?

 

And so it goes with Duda.  NEVER EVER does anything with his chances.  The guy sucks.  Everyone but Sandy knows what you get with Duda:  occasional home runs, decent OB%, and a lot of strikeouts.  You just knew there was no way in hell he wasn't striking out against Kimbrel last night. 

 

Re:  Wheeler...of course it's a teeny sample size.  Even if he didn't have a great year this season, would I be giving up on him?  Of course not.  What we're seeing is that he's not going to take the league by storm...he's going to have to develop, and it may take a while.  But so far, we know what the weakness are:  gives up his fair share of hits (105 in 111 IP so far), and gives up a lot of walks (and often throws a lot of pitches even when he doesn't).  Has also allowed 12 HRs. 

 

Re:  Syndergaard...yeah, ups and downs to be expected.  We'll see where they are by June.     


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Posted 10 April 2014 - 09:31 AM

What chance did Duda even have this time? 16 AB? :lol:

 

I don't really care who they choose. I prefer Ike by a teeny bit, but both more than likely suck. Just pick one, and if Sandy doesn't have the balls to make a trade, send the other to Vegas and give the chosen one AT LEAST 150 PA without having to constantly look over his shoulder. But deciding Duda isn't the answer after a whopping 16 AB is so ridiculous it's not even funny.  


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Posted 10 April 2014 - 10:21 AM

What chance did Duda even have this time? 16 AB? :lol:

 

I don't really care who they choose. I prefer Ike by a teeny bit, but both more than likely suck. Just pick one, and if Sandy doesn't have the balls to make a trade, send the other to Vegas and give the chosen one AT LEAST 150 PA without having to constantly look over his shoulder. But deciding Duda isn't the answer after a whopping 16 AB is so ridiculous it's not even funny.  

 

I can't really disagree with you nmig...I just don't like Duda (big suprise, right?) and don't think he's ever going to amount to anything...I don't think 100-150 PA would do anything to dispell that.  But yeah, Amateur Terry/Passive/the Mets look collectively silly giving up on Doofus that quickly (even if I'm behind it) after proclaiming he was going to get an extended look. 


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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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