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Posted 09 February 2014 - 05:23 PM

It is becoming increasingly clear Martin Brodeur will finish his NHL career someplace other than New Jersey if he wishes to play next season, but not so clear at all where the all-time goaltender will finish this season.

Brodeur is expected to ponder his options during the winter recess, to consider whether requesting a trade would be mutually beneficial for him and the Devils, who have their noses pressed against the outside of the playoff window and are in severe danger of missing the tournament for the third time in the past four seasons.

After 20 seasons, the Devils’ net belongs to someone else. No one ever had a longer run as a club’s No. 1 than Brodeur — not Frank Brimsek, not Turk Broda, not Jacques Plante, not Glenn Hall, not Tony Esposito, not Dominik Hasek, not Patrick Roy, and not even close.

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 06:13 PM

Brooks wrote something about nothing being able to tarnish Marty's career at this point, and I agree 100% with that.  If Marty wants to go play somewhere else to what will amount to not much more than a cup of coffee compared to what he did here, that's fine.  682 Devil victories.  Damned near 300 more than the next highest win total for a goalie with one team.  I can live with him winning another 10 or so with someone else.   

 

If the Devils did trade Marty, they'd have to go out and get a backup.  Kinkaid (who is kind of iffy to begin with) is hurt, and Wedge is not ready. 


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 06:25 PM

If he goes somewhere else he'll be a backup. Just do that here instead of turning people against you or retire.

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 06:51 PM

I have no issue at all if Marty wants to play elsewhere. Good for him if he finds more ice time.

It has been an awesome time watching him play for our team.

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 07:56 PM

I'm sure some GM's may value Brodeur because of his name and experience despite his current ability. Trying to figure out what potential playoff teams may be open to having him as a back up (that the Devils would trade with). This is what I came up with:

Tampa Bay: Bishop is having an insane year with a heavy workload. Lindback has been pretty terrible as a back up - 3.23 GAA, .880 SV%, -15.23 GSAA in 18 games so you could make the case Brodeur would be an upgrade over Lindback.

San Jose: Niemi's having a decent enough year as the starter and of course knows what it takes to win the SC. The back up Alex Stalock is having a solid year in 16 games -  1.67, .938 SV%, 8.35 GSAA but only has 19 NHL games to his resume. I doubt they'd want Brodeur, but I'm really having trouble coming up with other teams to list as possible destinations.

Minnesota: Harding has been fantastic but his health is obviously an issue unfortunately. Backstrom hasn't had a great year in  his 21 games - 3.02 GAA, .899 SV%, -8.06 GSAA. Darcy Kuemper has been fine when called upon in 15 games but is only 23 and has just 21 NHL games played in his career.

Winnipeg: Montoya has been fine in his 18 games. Pavelec has played 45 games despite being horrendous - 2.97 GAA, .901 SV%, -17.21 GSAA. Brodeur and Pavelec are probably interchangeable at this point.
 


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 08:02 PM

Brodeur for Havlat wouldn't be a horrible trade for both teams, where both sides would pick up half of each player's contract.  There's also Brodeur for Heatley, even though Heatley is through.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 08:11 PM

If he goes somewhere else he'll be a backup. Just do that here instead of turning people against you or retire.

 

Anybody who would turn against him at this point is simply unappreciative of the balance of his career and being flat-out petty.  I may not think he has much left, but if he thinks he does, and he and Lou decide it's best to move him, and there's a team that believes he can help them on the ice or simply by bringing experience, then he shouldn't be locked into staying here.

 

 

Brodeur for Havlat wouldn't be a horrible trade for both teams, where both sides would pick up half of each player's contract.  There's also Brodeur for Heatley, even though Heatley is through

 

Havlat is signed through next season.  Not sure I'd want him for the 2014-15 season as well. 


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 08:30 PM

If CBJ reaches the playoffs they could use Marty for experience.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 09:23 PM

if we can get something good for him, i would consider trading him, but not for nothing.

 

What if... Price injured himself going into the olympic and we trade him to Montreal. (ahaha lol)

 

Marty Brodeur will always be the best goaltender of all time in my book. It would be weird to see him in another uniform. At the right prize trading him seems logical.

 

But i hope we dont ship him for nothing.... 


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 09:25 PM

if we can get something good for him, i would consider trading him, but not for nothing.

 

What if... Price injured himself going into the olympic and we trade him to Montreal. (ahaha lol)

 

Marty Brodeur will always be the best goaltender of all time in my book. It would be weird to see him in another uniform. At the right prize trading him seems logical.

 

But i hope we dont ship him for nothing.... 

 

MTL has Budaj who at this point is better than Marty.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 09:56 PM

Please, no Minnesota.  I don't want to have to root for them.

 

But hey, if the guy wants to play, ship him out.  He's been quiet recently so..I can respect it.  I can't blame the guy for wanting to play some more if he thinks he can.

 

And hey, it'll be nice if it's some other team that has to tell him he's washed up and not the Devils.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 10:06 PM

I'm sure I'll have an unpopular opinion here, but Lou and Marty reportedly had a long discussion yesterday or today about his future, and I'd welcome for Brodeur to get dealt. If that is what he wants, an opportunity to still play, and some team out there wants to give him that chance...then go for it.

 

Okay, maybe that wouldn't an unpopular opinion, but this might...It really wouldn't pain me to see him where another uniform either. In some ways it be kind of cool, especially if he got in the zone and played at a somewhat decent level of play. There is no more future for Brodeur in NJ (as an NHL goalie) anymore, but if there is for another organization...let's see it.

 

While Joe Montana on the Chiefs, Jordan on the Wizards, Emmitt Smith on the Cardinals or Orr on the Blackhawks doesn't seem right and didn't particularly end up well, it in no shape or form tarnish their legacy with the 49ers, Bulls, Cowboys, or Bruins in any way. It was really inconsequential. So would Brodeur going to another team. The idea of Brodeur playing every game of his entire career as a Devil is irrelevant to me. Leaving in 2014 is a lot different than leaving in say 2004 or even 2010.

 

NOW, why would another team really want Brodeur...I don't see it, but who knows.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 10:32 PM

I'm sure I'll have an unpopular opinion here, but Lou and Marty reportedly had a long discussion yesterday or today about his future, and I'd welcome for Brodeur to get dealt. If that is what he wants, an opportunity to still play, and some team out there wants to give him that chance...then go for it.

Okay, maybe that wouldn't an unpopular opinion, but this might...It really wouldn't pain me to see him where another uniform either. In some ways it be kind of cool, especially if he got in the zone and played at a somewhat decent level of play. There is no more future for Brodeur in NJ (as an NHL goalie) anymore, but if there is for another organization...let's see it.

While Joe Montana on the Chiefs, Jordan on the Wizards, Emmitt Smith on the Cardinals or Orr on the Blackhawks doesn't seem right and didn't particularly end up well, it in no shape or form tarnish their legacy with the 49ers, Bulls, Cowboys, or Bruins in any way. It was really inconsequential. So would Brodeur going to another team. The idea of Brodeur playing every game of his entire career as a Devil is irrelevant to me. Leaving in 2014 is a lot different than leaving in say 2004 or even 2010.

NOW, why would another team really want Brodeur...I don't see it, but who knows.


I'm not really that attached to him, and if there's a willing trade partner, then I'm all for it. Frankly, a trade might be the best thing, since we'll know for sure that he won't be back next year, and there will be one less headache to deal with.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 10:37 PM

Montana on the Chiefs is a good comparison in the sense that he was essentially forced out for a younger stud in the making (Steve Young), though Montana actually had some good football left.

 

I'm not particularly excited about seeing Marty in another uniform but it seems inevitable at this point with his own quotes and the other media 'leaks'.  I just hope he goes somewhere where he doesn't have to play the Devils this year, particularly at the Rock.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 10:45 PM

Montana on the Chiefs is a good comparison in the sense that he was essentially forced out for a younger stud in the making (Steve Young), though Montana actually had some good football left.

 

I'm not particularly excited about seeing Marty in another uniform but it seems inevitable at this point with his own quotes and the other media 'leaks'.  I just hope he goes somewhere where he doesn't have to play the Devils this year, particularly at the Rock.

 

I hope he does play us if he goes to another team. We'd get two points for sure.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 10:50 PM

I hope he does play us if he goes to another team. We'd get two points for sure.

 

Good luck with that one...more likely he raises his game and this popgun offense gives him one more shutout to add to his total.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 11:00 PM

If playing somewhere else will make Marty happy, then I'm cool with it I guess. It'll be tough to see him wear another sweater though. Marty has BEEN the Devils for my entire teenage and adult life. He's an institution. Seeing him don a Chicago or Minnesota jersey will be a tough pill. But it's his career, his legacy, and his life... If he wants to move on, I wish him nothing but happiness and success wherever he goes.


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Posted 10 February 2014 - 01:47 AM

I don't want him to play for another team. Period. This team is dog sh!t with or without him and id be perfectly fine with him in a real back up role if that's what he wants.
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Posted 10 February 2014 - 03:44 AM

I don't want him to play for another team. Period. This team is dog sh!t with or without him and id be perfectly fine with him in a real back up role if that's what he wants.

 

He is in a back-up role now, he just had a meeting with Lou and his agent and you think he wants a back-up role? 

 

If we had all our picks, better balance in terms of prospects etc I'd be in favor for keeping him. But this team needs to accumulate assets. If you can pry a decent pick, player or prospect from a team in exchange for Marty you have to do it.


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Posted 10 February 2014 - 04:18 AM

No one is going to play him as a starter except maybe the islanders.

He is in a back-up role now, he just had a meeting with Lou and his agent and you think he wants a back-up role?

If we had all our picks, better balance in terms of prospects etc I'd be in favor for keeping him. But this team needs to accumulate assets. If you can pry a decent pick, player or prospect from a team in exchange for Marty you have to do it.


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