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#1201 BlueSkirt

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:18 PM

I'm looking forward to seeing Motormouth Marty's first interview....


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#1202 NJDfan1711

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:18 PM

A)  I lied about being done.  Sue me.

 

B)  I love when new posters come on here with a holier-than-thou attitude.  This is a hockey forum - are we not supposed to speak our minds?  fvck off with that nonsense.  You're not contributing anything that hasn't already been said.

 

That quote about 2008 is scary.

I'm going to assume that's directed at me.  I'm not coming in here with a holier than thou attitude, and certainly not saying you can't voice your opinion -- obviously, yes, that is the point of a forum -- I just can't believe the number of people acting like the freaking apocalypse is coming just because a few guys didn't get moved, and because we basically executed a one-for-one swap, losing a guy who has contributed 12 more points this year than I have.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:18 PM

Hit counts are like shot counts. Unless you're counting them personally, do you trust them 100%? From my seats, they hit enough that reflects their style of play. Do you want them slamming every opposiite color jersey every shift like madmen? There's hard, smart fore checking and there is running around all over the place. Physical play is not an issue with this team. 

 

I think we never match the other team in terms of aggression in that sense, we are typically always lower than the other team sure the counts could be off slightly but we always are behind on the hits department. There is a place for hits, you fvck up skill players and it will make them think twice eventually about doing certain things.


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#1204 Mike Brown

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:18 PM

Ruutu has 9 goals and 16 assists in his last 74 games and is 31. I don't think this is the player they needed. Loktionov has 12 goals and 12 assists in his last 76 games and despite his defensive issues, was one of the best passers on the team and excellent in zone exits. Someone who tracked zone entries in 18 Devils games this year also noted that Loktionov was one of the better Devils at carrying the puck in. I don't see why it would've been bad to just keep Loktionov and let him walk at the end of the year instead of taking on a bad contract of a player on the wrong side of 30. 

 

I would be perfectly fine with keeping Loktionov.  But at worst, Ruutu is as good offensively as Loktionov.  Where Ruutu is better than Loktionov is physicality and defense.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:20 PM

Not sure I'd rather have Halak than Neuvirth. Neuvirth I get for an extra year and for less money. If I do want to resign him he is also 3 years younger.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:20 PM

Hit counts are like shot counts. Unless you're counting them personally, do you trust them 100%? From my seats, they hit enough that reflects their style of play. Do you want them slamming every opposiite color jersey every shift like madmen? There's hard, smart fore checking and there is running around all over the place. Physical play is not an issue with this team. 

Since I vastly disagreed with your statement before, I'll give some credit on this one.  I don't find hitting to be a particular problem either -- our time of possession and controlling the puck along the boards and behind the net has been satisfactory or above average in my book.  I actually prefer the old school style of hitting anyway, which dictates that the D-men do most of it and actually stand guys up at the blue line (a la our beloved Stevens).  I would hate Salvador a lot less if he would do that, and he has the body frame to do so, which is puzzling why he doesn't.


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#1207 Sneax

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:21 PM

Apparently, some posters want the forward unit to consist of 6 scorers and 6 Cam Janssens.

Nice smart ass, clearly I said everyone in the top 6 should be running around checking guys. But guess what we play teams like fvcking pittsburg and can be behind in hits. If a team with that top end talent throws their weight around so can we.

 

 

We do lack a certain physicallity right now, and if you wanna be olbivious to that or say its not needed fine, but don't be fvcking twats lashing out at people that think it's an important thing to have.


Since I vastly disagreed with your statement before, I'll give some credit on this one.  I don't find hitting to be a particular problem either -- our time of possession and controlling the puck along the boards and behind the net has been satisfactory or above average in my book.  I actually prefer the old school style of hitting anyway, which dictates that the D-men do most of it and actually stand guys up at the blue line (a la our beloved Stevens).  I would hate Salvador a lot less if he would do that, and he has the body frame to do so, which is puzzling why he doesn't.

 

He's slow so I imagine if he steps up on the foward they can easily get past him and make him look like a fool.


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#1208 Mike Brown

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:21 PM

How many times have we seen opposing teams easily break off our forecheck because we don't play the body?  Ruutu will help that.  How about when we're pinned in our defensive zone because we just let the opposition cycle the puck without playing the body?  Ruutu will help that.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:22 PM

People LOVED the Zidlicky trade...we needed a PP QB in the worst way.  

 

To be fair, I do remember some people lamenting that we gave up on the great Nick Palmieri... :giggle:


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:22 PM

I'm going to assume that's directed at me.  I'm not coming in here with a holier than thou attitude, and certainly not saying you can't voice your opinion -- obviously, yes, that is the point of a forum -- I just can't believe the number of people acting like the freaking apocalypse is coming just because a few guys didn't get moved, and because we basically executed a one-for-one swap, losing a guy who has contributed 12 more points this year than I have.

 

Wrong. So, who are you over on HF for real?


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:23 PM

Doesn't anyone remember what happened when we added Kovy? Cup contenders one minute, collapsing in five in the first round the next.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:23 PM

Nice smart ass, clearly I said everyone in the top 6 should be running around checking guys. But guess what we play teams like fvcking pittsburg and can be behind in hits. If a team with that top end talent throws their weight around so can we.

 

 

We do lack a certain physicallity right now, and if you wanna be olbivious to that or say its not needed fine, but don't be fvcking twats lashing out at people that think it's an important thing to have.


 

He's slow so I imagine if he steps up on the defensemen they can easily get past him and make him look like a fool.

 

It WAS an important thing to have pre 2005 lockout.  Teams like Pittsburgh are not going out throwing crushing hits every game and winning.  Instead they are winning board battles, they are faster, younger and have better overall talent than ours.

 

We have plenty of toughness.  We just lack talent, speed and youth.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:23 PM

 

 

wrong ruutu

 

Nop it's the right one... Many Ruutu hits Jagr over the year...

But yes.. Tuomo isn't the one that almost kill Jaromir during olympics .. years ago ! 


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:24 PM

Doesn't anyone remember what happened when we added Kovy? Cup contenders one minute, collapsing in five in the first round the next.

 

The malaise had kicked in about a month before the Kovy trade. 


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:25 PM

People LOVED the Zidlicky trade...we needed a PP QB in the worst way.  

I remember the word "senile" being thrown around after Lou made that deal.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:25 PM

Let's all get some perspective here. Think about the Islanders' GM, Mr. Garth Snow: he basically just traded Matt Moulson, a first round pick, and a second round pick for Sebastian Collberg and a worse second round pick. Collberg better pan out for them or else this team is just choosing to destroy itself...


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:26 PM

Dam gaborik to LA. And Thomas to Dallas.
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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:31 PM

One of the weird ones trickling in after the deadline.... Calgary trades Reto Berra to Colorado for a 2nd rd pick.  Strange on both ends... A second is a lot for a guy to sit behind Giguere and Varlamov, and now Calgary is rolling with Kari Ramo and Joni Ortio.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:32 PM

Pat Brisson, Luongo and Brodeur's representative, said that he had "conversations" regarding Marty's future prior to the trade deadline.  He just came on Toronto's version of ESPN Radio.  He did say, however, Lou did NOT give him authorization to talk to any teams, unlike what Vancouver did with Luongo.

 

He also said that Brodeur was "OK" with still being a Devil.

 

Funny that Brisson seemed very "tentative" when talking about Brodeur and Lamoriello.  It's almost as if he had been given a gag order or had signed a confidentiality agreement with the Devils.  lol.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:33 PM

Would have liked for us to get Cammalieri or take a stab at Moulson.  Ruutu doesn't fix our scoring.  


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