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#101 Mitico12

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 02:36 PM

Another thing, over 10 million dollars tied up into Ryane Clowe and Tuomo Ruutu...ugh.  I'm gonna be sick.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 02:37 PM

Clowe has been pretty good for us since coming back from injury. IMO worth the money so far.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 02:38 PM

i'm not complaining about clowe - that deal will turn out to be bad, of course, but for this season, when he's been healthy, he's been good.

 

this ruutu deal sucks a ton. i'd bet lou doesn't even know the rule about asking carolina to retain salary. 

 

"we've been looking at ruutu for years..."


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 02:44 PM

With all the money we're giving Ruutu and Clowe, PartyPoker.NJ.COM will now need to amp up their efforts to give us some more revenue to make up for these bonehead signings...


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 02:45 PM

i'm not complaining about clowe - that deal will turn out to be bad, of course, but for this season, when he's been healthy, he's been good.

 

this ruutu deal sucks a ton. i'd bet lou doesn't even know the rule about asking carolina to retain salary. 

 

"we've been looking at ruutu for years..."

 

Has Lou been sneaking into the training room in Carolina to watch Ruutu rehab?  The guy has barely played the past few years with the number of injuries he's had!


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 02:53 PM

Has Lou been sneaking into the training room in Carolina to watch Ruutu rehab?  The guy has barely played the past few years with the number of injuries he's had!

LOL good one duck


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 02:54 PM

Not sure what the big deal is - lokti was so so and clearly not in the plans past this year anyway. His agent already came it and said he was unhappy here. The pick is nothing and can easily be recouped way down the line if we really are dying for a 3rd round pick.

Hopefully this means josefson is going to get a long stint as the 3C.
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Posted 05 March 2014 - 02:55 PM

Ugh, on the hook for his 4.75 mil cap hit until 2016.

 

I may vomit.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 02:58 PM

Not sure what the big deal is - lokti was so so and clearly not in the plans past this year anyway. His agent already came it and said he was unhappy here. The pick is nothing and can easily be recouped way down the line if we really are dying for a 3rd round pick.

Hopefully this means josefson is going to get a long stint as the 3C.

 

It's a terrible misallocation of money.  You've got 3 guys (Zubrus, Clowe, Ruutu) who basically do the same thing, and all of them are paid twice what they should be for it, and all of them are on the downslope of their careers.  If Carolina is picking up 25% of this deal, it's just a run of the mill bad deal deadline desperation type thing.  If they are picking up none of it, it's horrendous.  If they're picking up 50%, okay, it should be okay, not really much of a risk because that's around what bad 3rd line players go for these days in UFA.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 03:02 PM

I no longer Trust in Lou, sorry, but if this is the best he can do then its time to walk away. This kleague is about speed now, and he trades for a slow mucker w/ an awful contract???

Is he hoping to bore the other teams to death?
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Posted 05 March 2014 - 03:02 PM

It's a terrible misallocation of money.  You've got 3 guys (Zubrus, Clowe, Ruutu) who basically do the same thing, and all of them are paid twice what they should be for it, and all of them are on the downslope of their careers.  If Carolina is picking up 25% of this deal, it's just a run of the mill bad deal deadline desperation type thing.  If they are picking up none of it, it's horrendous.  If they're picking up 50%, okay, it should be okay, not really much of a risk because that's around what bad 3rd line players go for these days in UFA.

 

My question is even if they are picking up all of his salary, does it really prevent the Devils from doing anything else?  It won't stop the Devils from throwing money at Statsny, even if that were in the cards.  It can't imagine that it would have any effect on keeping all of the young guys that you would want to lock up long term.

It's the same reason why the worst thing about Volchenkov's deal is not the money, but the years and NMC. 


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 03:04 PM

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 03:06 PM

I knew Lou would be after Rutuu. I'm going to be sick.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 03:08 PM

My question is even if they are picking up all of his salary, does it really prevent the Devils from doing anything else?  It won't stop the Devils from throwing money at Statsny, even if that were in the cards.  It can't imagine that it would have any effect on keeping all of the young guys that you would want to lock up long term.

It's the same reason why the worst thing about Volchenkov's deal is not the money, but the years and NMC. 

 

Yes.  It prevents them from getting a better player for that spot.  This is already the problem with Dainius Zubrus.  It's hard to think of a team weaker down the left side than NJ is right now with Zubrus/Ruutu/Clowe/Carter, and the best news is that the first three guys are signed through 2016.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 03:11 PM

Lou Lamoriello has not watched a non-Devils game in 15 years. I am sure of it. I think Hedberg might be their only pro scout too.

 

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 03:13 PM

I never thought I'd say this, but I think Lou might be starting to lose it.  What an absolute joke this day has been.  At least the Hurricanes are having a nice laugh.   


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 03:15 PM

Lou Lamoriello has not watched a non-Devils game in 15 years. I am sure of it. 

 

 

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 03:16 PM

i would have no problem if lou did nothing and wouldn't say it was him losing it - the devils need a lot to go right just to make the playoffs. dealing away any of the young d for any kind of rental would be disastrous. 

 

but the ruutu deal - its is bad for every reason. he could score 40 goals next year and it's still a mistake. it's been lou's MO too often - doing things hoping they work out regardless of whether they are the correct risk/allocation of resources.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 03:20 PM

Yes.  It prevents them from getting a better player for that spot.  This is already the problem with Dainius Zubrus.  It's hard to think of a team weaker down the left side than NJ is right now with Zubrus/Ruutu/Clowe/Carter, and the best news is that the first three guys are signed through 2016.

 

That's a roster jam that occurs regardless of the money. 


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 03:20 PM

i would have no problem if lou did nothing and wouldn't say it was him losing it - the devils need a lot to go right just to make the playoffs. dealing away any of the young d for any kind of rental would be disastrous. 

 

but the ruutu deal - its is bad for every reason. he could score 40 goals next year and it's still a mistake. it's been lou's MO too often - doing things hoping they work out regardless of whether they are the correct risk/allocation of resources.

 

I agree.  I actually wouldn't have had any issues with him standing pat. 


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