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#161 njd3b1ink

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:25 PM

I have a question. How exactly does retaining salary work? Is it just the team pays some of the players salary so the team receiving the player just saves actual dollars? Or does it actually split the cap hit between the two teams? I thought it split the cap hit but i could be wrong.


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#162 Mike Brown

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:25 PM

Um, yes he is.

 

http://hurricanes.nh...s.htm?id=618389

 

The deal will pay Ruutu $4 million in 2012-13, and $5 million per season in the 2013-14, 2014-15 and 2015-16 seasons.

 

I wasn't talking actual dollars.

 

His caphit is $4.75m.  Owners are the ones who care about the actual dollar amount.  Fans and GM's only care about caphits.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:26 PM

I was a big Lokti fan because it was nice to see someone with speed on this team. But I said last night to my girlfriend that the Devils needed some grit on this team. Now the contract is redic, but we were playing the trade game with zero assets. I would have preferred Lee Stempniak.

Thus summer is when Lou will work some magic.

Has anyone looked at the Islanders schedule? I hope they don't play a lot of people ahead of the Devs.

At least he knows Jagr.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:26 PM

The good news?  Ruutu is in the top 20 in the NHL in hits.

 

The bad news?  We got a $5 million version of Steve Bernier.

Bernier comparison is spot on.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:28 PM

Bernier comparison is spot on.

 

Except Ruutu is better offensively and defensively than Bernier.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:30 PM

Except Ruutu is better offensively and defensively than Bernier.

They are going to nail you for double talk there probably. Werent you one of the guys saying bernier could be like a 50point player. There is no way Ruutu is better than that lol. It might not have been you who said that, but your digging a grave if you did.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:30 PM

Facts you can't make up:

 

In 16 career playoff games, Ruutu has one goal:  2009 Game 7 vs. the Devils (one of the worst gut-punch losses in Devils' history).

I was gonna ask if Ruutu was on that 09 Carolina team. Yep, come to think of it I think he scored the first goal of the game for them that night.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:30 PM

glad to see lokti gone and we need to start changing some stuff up he was useless anyway.. but dont know a thing about this guy rutuu.. from the majority of what ive been reading sure sounds like majority of fans arent to thrilled
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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:30 PM

Except Ruutu is better offensively and defensively than Bernier.

 

But wait a minute, didn't you say Bernier could play on the top line and could still fulfill that potential he showed as a rookie?


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:35 PM

They are going to nail you for double talk there probably. Werent you one of the guys saying bernier could be like a 50point player. There is no way Ruutu is better than that lol. It might not have been you who said that, but your digging a grave if you did.

 

Well I think Bernier COULD be a 50 point player.  Ruutu actually WAS a 50 point player.  Right now I'd say Bernier is anywhere from 15-25, possibly 30 point player.  I still think Ruutu is a 40 point player.


But wait a minute, didn't you say Bernier could play on the top line and could still fulfill that potential he showed as a rookie?

 

Well I think Bernier COULD be a 50 point player.  Ruutu actually WAS a 50 point player.  Right now I'd say Bernier is anywhere from 15-25, possibly 30 point player.  I still think Ruutu is a 40 point player.


glad to see lokti gone and we need to start changing some stuff up he was useless anyway.. but dont know a thing about this guy rutuu.. from the majority of what ive been reading sure sounds like majority of fans arent to thrilled

 

He's a physical guy who can chip in some offense.  He's good defensively as well.  Think of a Ryane Clowe type of player except Ruutu is more talented.  But like Clowe, injuries are a concern.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:38 PM

But wait a minute, didn't you say Bernier could play on the top line and could still fulfill that potential he showed as a rookie?

 

Let's not get into this game again where we pick apart everything Mike Brown says - he's been a lot better lately. 

 

That being said, I disagree with his assessment of Bernier (he doesn't seem to have any offensive...um..anything).  I don't think he hits 50 points playing on a line with Crosby.

 

I'd hope Ruutu is a 40 point player, I honestly don't know enough about his game to argue one way or the other.  For the money he's earning, he better bring some serious 'intangibles' 


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 05:00 PM

Oh well, it is what it is.  Might as well get on board with it.  Curious to see what he brings, though it's hard to see how he's going to improve any current weaknesses. 


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 05:02 PM

Bad trade. Even if they retain half the caphit (which they're probably not doing).


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 05:14 PM

But wait a minute, didn't you say Bernier could play on the top line and could still fulfill that potential he showed as a rookie?

"Could" and "is" are two different things. Don't be an a$$hole.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 05:16 PM

i hope hes better then bernier.. i feel like he brings practically nothing to the table these days
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Posted 05 March 2014 - 05:16 PM

i hope hes better then bernier.. i feel like he brings practically nothing to the table these days

 

He is better than Bernier.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 05:18 PM

Just realized I have him on my fantasy team (A 20 person league with 22 man roster). 


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 05:20 PM

"Could" and "is" are two different things. Don't be an a$$hole.

 

Are you his girlfriend, RingDings? 


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 05:22 PM

Anyway, I think this team is starting to look a lot like those old defense first Devils squads. I like it. We won plenty without flash. Bring the grit back.


Are you his girlfriend, RingDings? 

Yup.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 05:26 PM

I wonder how much salary was retained.

Rutuu at 3m isn't quite as insulting. I'm hoping Lou threw that third in there to get them to keep a significant amount of salary.

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