Okay, fine. but do you think he would've stayed a ppg player? the reason he broke out that year was because he forced him to fit. then parise left and he became the #1. In 37gp, he had 31pts albeit he broke his collar bone and played with SKA (where he tore up). Then AFTER the nhl season, he tore up the World whatever.
Washington has Ovy - 0 Cups - 0 cup appearances
Tampa has Stamkos - 0 cups - 0 cup appearances
Pittsburgh has Crybaby/Malkin - 1 cup. Look at last years dream team - barely beat the Islanders! - Back to back appearances against the same team
Vancouver has the Sedin twins - 0 cups - 1 Cup appearance (beat by boston)
Boston has great depth - 1 Cup and destroyed Pittsburgh's dream team. - 2 cup appearances within 3 years.
Chicago has Toews/Kane with depth - 2 cups (One against Philly) - 2 Cup appearances within 4 years
LA has Kopitar with depth - 1 cup - 1 Cup appearance.
NJ had Kovy/Parise (Parise's borderline) - 0 cups - 1 cup appearance (beat by LA)
Although it seems more likely to win with a duo, I still believe depth wins. Has pittsburgh done anything since their 2 runs? They crap out in the playoffs because their scorers are always peeling themselves off the boards or are choking. Look at 2012, depth saved our ass.
Back to my original point - how come Jagr excels in our system while Ryder doesn't? Jagr fits like a glove but Ryder stands out like a sore thumb. We just need two more Jagrs
Okay. Let's try each in order:
1.Caps-lack a true number 1 goalie and the D isn't a team strength. Halak good pick up. Despite star talent (Ovechkin/Backstrom) lack fundamentals.
2.Bolts-Stamkos. Traded MSL to NYR for Callahan. Hoisted Sens for Bishop. A Vezina frontrunner. Good scoring. Calder candidates-Johnson, Palat. Could make a run.
3.Pens-Crosby/Geno 1 Cup 2 appearances MVPs Fleury but no Letang or Martin. Depleted blueline could mean early exit. Malkin returns in playoffs.
4.Canucks-1 Cup Final 10 consecutive playoff defeats. Sedins have aged. Neither has 50 points. Kesler leads in goals and wants out. Traded Lou. Lack is the guy. Little offensive depth. Gillis keeps his job.
5.Bruins-1 Cup 1 runner up. great overall depth and leadership. Chara. Bergeron. Krejci. Lucic. Iginla. Marchand. Best 4th line in hockey. Good coach. Rask arguably best in sport. Well constructed.
6.Hawks-2 Cups in 4 years. Toews. Kane. Sharp. Hossa. Keith Norris frontrunner teams with Seabrook best D tandem. Crawford. Great depth guys like Shaw and Saad. Plus Queeneville.
7.Kings-1 Cup. Underappreciated stars up front (Kopitar) and on back end (Doughty). A top 5 goalie in Quick. Center depth (Carter, Richards, Stoll). Added Gaborik for run. Plus a clutch playoff performer (Williams) and energy guy (King).
These are just current. I'll add from history perspective:
8.Ducks-1 Cup. Getzlaf/Perry. Niedermayer. Pronger. Beauchemin. Giguere. Selanne. Penner. Pahlsson. R. Niedermayer. Current roster still features dynamic duo plus new goalie tandem (Hiller/Andersen), Beauchemin and Teemu. S. Koivu. Fowler on back end. Good forward depth that must perform in playoffs.
9.Blues-Great leadership, balance and toughness. Added goalie (Miller) to core of Backes, Oshie, Steen, Schwartz, Tarashenko. Pietrangelo anchors blueline with Shattenkirk. Jay Bou. Hitchcock won 1 Cup. Lost the next year to '00 Devils. Are they ready?
10.Sharks-Thornton/Marleau/Pavelski and Couture. Dynamic scorers. Burns. Can a blueline with Boyle, Demers and Vlasic win? Niemi has a Cup with Hawks.
11.Avalanche-Roy should probably win the Adams. Talented forward core featuring Duchene (knee injury?), Landeskog, O'Reilly, Stastny and Calder frontrunner MacKinnon. Varlamov with a career year. Young back end led by E. Johnson and Barrie. Solid depth. Is their style too wide open? They're my sleeper.
12.Canadiens-Price in net. Subban/Markov anchor blueline. Emelin tough. Pacioretty tops in goal department. Rented Vanek. Solid nucleus features Plekanec, Desharnais, Gallagher, Gionta and Briere. Plenty of experience. But Michel Therrien behind the bench. Not sure if they win more than a round.
13.Flyers-Giroux carrying team. JVR. Voracek. Simmonds one of best power forwards. Good center depth (Schenn, Couturier). Plus Read. As usual, can a D led by Timonen, Streit and MacDonald plus unproven Steve Mason make a dent? Should be a tough out.
14.Rangers-Lundqvist. McDonagh and Girardi anchor D plus Staal and overlooked Stralman. Don't boast a true 1 center. Scoring by committee (Stepan, Zuccarello, Richards, Nash, Brassard). St. Louis 0 goals 3 assists since trade. Mystifying. Kreider loss hurts. Underrated depth (Boyle, Hagelin, Pouliot, Moore). Little toughness. Unless MSL produces, hard to see them winning more than a round. Likely match-up with Flyers.
15.Blue Jackets-not sure what's going on in net. McElhinney has played lately and well over Bobrovsky. One 30-goal scorer in Johansen. Solid two-way forwards (Anisimov/Dubinsky/Umberger). Battle tested Cup winner in Horton. Atkinson is an exciting player. Foligno gritty as is Jenner. Blueline anchored by J. Johnson, Wisniewski and Tyutin. They don't play much D, are offensively challenged but play hard. If they get in, could be similar in style to last year's Islanders.
As for the point about how to build, I believe you have to have elite offensive talent to win now. It can't just hinge on goaltending and D. That doesn't get it done anymore. Every recent Cup winner has scored enough thanks to star talent and depth. The Kings relied on Quick but needed Jeff Carter to win. Their center depth gave them an edge. Plus Doughty is one of game's best who'll probably never win a Norris. Scuderi was also on that team and Mitchell too. Got a good postseason from Voynov, who's been alright this year.
If you're serious about contending, you can't have number two centers as your top guy. It only works in Boston because Bergeron and Krejci are better than average. One is one of the game's best overall players and the other always flies under radar. They're both reliable two-way centers who dominate on faceoffs. That's another thing. Unless your center depth is rock solid, you're not going anywhere. The name of the game is puck possession. The really good teams have it.
The Devils rank near the bottom in faceoffs aside from Travis Zajac. Henrique has had a breakout. But they lack overall talent. Jagr cannot be your leading scorer. Given what they have in the farm on D, maybe they should consider moving a piece for an offensive player (Yakupov?). I've seen Hasan and others discuss how mismanaged their prospects are. They destroyed Tedenby and Josefson. I'm not sure what they're doing with Larsson. There are way too many vets who are blocking spots. Salvador gets mocked but without him in '12, they don't make that run. It still was a big miscalculation by Lou. Volchenkov is tough despite his age. He's a gamer. But you have to free up spots. Peter Harrold is serviceable but shouldn't be in over Gelinas even with his defensive deficiencies. I'm not sure if you pin that on DeBoer or the organization.
Edited by Derek21, 30 March 2014 - 12:18 AM.