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#121 LucifersDog

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 01:52 AM

I know its too early to talk about this but I really hope Lou does something during the off season cause I dont see this ream making the playoffs next season with the players we currently have


What Lou needs to do in the off season is retire.

Don't worry, Lou Lamoriello believes in this team.


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Posted 23 March 2014 - 05:46 AM

This team played fine. There was urgency. It just isn't very talented. This isn't an underachieving team or a poorly coached team. This is a team lacking elite talent. It's a team that misses Kovalchuk and Parise, and even Clarkson some nights.

 

You should have reached acceptance a long time ago with this team. I feel bad for anyone who hasn't. This isn't the 11-12 Devils disappointing night after night.

 

Yea, this. I don't buy the "lacking heart" argument. They just can't do it; too old, too slow, not skilled enough.


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Posted 23 March 2014 - 06:54 AM

Not much to say.  Low point of this season.  Knew making the playoffs was a long shot, but there was a part of me that was hanging on to some level of optimism (however small it was becoming).  Not anymore.     


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Posted 23 March 2014 - 07:06 AM

You should have reached acceptance a long time ago with this team. I feel bad for anyone who hasn't. This isn't the 11-12 Devils disappointing night after night.

 

 

Not much to say.  Low point of this season.  Knew making the playoffs was a long shot, but there was a part of me that was hanging on to some level of optimism (however small it was becoming).  Not anymore.     

 

I was basically where CR is, although to be honest I knew it was over after the Florida game they at least still had a realistic chance until last night.  Just too few games left for them to go on a winning streak they're not capable of and know they can't achieve.


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Posted 23 March 2014 - 07:27 AM

Curious to see what the approach will be if the Devils lose tonight (which definitely kills them completely).  Do guys like Larsson and Boucher get call-ups?  Does Marty start more games? 


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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 07:42 AM

i don't see the Devils calling anyone up really, especially for weekend games. Albany is in the thick of a playoff race.  I don't thnk Lou wants to disrupt that. With that said, they have some games on Mondays/Tuesdays when Albany doesn't typically play, then I'd imagine they might call someone up or two.

 

You have to assume if Albany gets in, and they probably will, Merrill and Gelinas will play for them. I'd wonder given the Devils fallout of contention if not this week, but perhaps next, if they get sent down early....


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Posted 23 March 2014 - 08:08 AM

I agree with Albany is in the hunt I expect them to remain the same and maybe as suggest Gelinas and Merrill might return, I think they should, if Devils lose tonight.

 

With a Devils loss tonight, what message is sent to Marty and Cory regarding playing the remaining 10 games? Personally I don't want to see Marty resigned for next season or beyond.

 

I could actually see us losing both Marty (next season) and Cory (season after).


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Posted 23 March 2014 - 08:12 AM

They'll split the remaining games, given their not-in-contention anymore - whatever I'm fine with that. It's exhibition games.


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Posted 23 March 2014 - 08:23 AM

It'd be nice to see Cory get the majority of games once they're realistically out of it but they'll probably give Marty almost all the home starts which is fine.


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Posted 23 March 2014 - 12:55 PM

i don't see the Devils calling anyone up really, especially for weekend games. Albany is in the thick of a playoff race.  I don't thnk Lou wants to disrupt that. With that said, they have some games on Mondays/Tuesdays when Albany doesn't typically play, then I'd imagine they might call someone up or two.

 

You have to assume if Albany gets in, and they probably will, Merrill and Gelinas will play for them. I'd wonder given the Devils fallout of contention if not this week, but perhaps next, if they get sent down early....

 

A-Devs are a near lock to get in.  I cannot imagine however that they will be sent down early.  Once NJ is officially eliminated from the playoffs, they'll bring up their remaining callups - I expect it'll be Sislo Larsson and Boucher.

 

Albany is 6 points up with 12 to play, and there's only one team that can legitimately overtake them.


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Posted 23 March 2014 - 01:07 PM

It'd be nice to see Cory get the majority of games once they're realistically out of it but they'll probably give Marty almost all the home starts which is fine.

I could also kind of see this happening with pointless games who cares who plays
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Posted 23 March 2014 - 01:50 PM

We never really looked in this game.  I didn't go, but watched the whole game with some friends over a few beers and grading papers.   It sucked.  I hate the fvcking Rangers, but they were and are a much better team than us. 


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Posted 23 March 2014 - 02:17 PM

It'd be nice to see Cory get the majority of games once they're realistically out of it but they'll probably give Marty almost all the home starts which is fine.

 

As I said a few weeks ago: if Marty ends up starting 40/41 games, I am fine with that.


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Posted 23 March 2014 - 03:55 PM

As I said a few weeks ago: if Marty ends up starting 40/41 games, I am fine with that.

 

You're also fine with missing the playoffs, as apparently the entire Devils organization is.


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Posted 23 March 2014 - 08:07 PM

You're also fine with missing the playoffs, as apparently the entire Devils organization is.

 

Oh please, the Devils aren't going to miss the playoffs because of Marty. The Devils are going to miss the playoffs because they are 29th in the league in scoring. Marty played bad for awhile and the Devils still pulled out wins. Schneider has had a losing record for much of the season even though he played well. Clearly our losses can't be attributed to goaltending.


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Posted 23 March 2014 - 10:26 PM

Oh please, the Devils aren't going to miss the playoffs because of Marty. The Devils are going to miss the playoffs because they are 29th in the league in scoring. Marty played bad for awhile and the Devils still pulled out wins. Schneider has had a losing record for much of the season even though he played well. Clearly our losses can't be attributed to goaltending.

 

Yes, 'clearly', even though a better goaltender would've won more games than Brodeur did with the goal support he had.


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Posted 23 March 2014 - 10:48 PM

Oh please, the Devils aren't going to miss the playoffs because of Marty. The Devils are going to miss the playoffs because they are 29th in the league in scoring. Marty played bad for awhile and the Devils still pulled out wins. Schneider has had a losing record for much of the season even though he played well. Clearly our losses can't be attributed to goaltending.

 

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these were horrific efforts and all on Marty. We got 1 point out of a possible 8 in these games. Even if we got 5 out of a possible 8 everything would be different now. I'm not even including the first home game against the Isles where we should've had 2 points or the Calgary disgrace early this year where he gives up a soft late goal.


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Posted 23 March 2014 - 11:15 PM

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these were horrific efforts and all on Marty. We got 1 point out of a possible 8 in these games. Even if we got 5 out of a possible 8 everything would be different now. I'm not even including the first home game against the Isles where we should've had 2 points or the Calgary disgrace early this year where he gives up a soft late goal.

 

I don't doubt there are games that would have gone differently if a million things about the game were different. Marty has not had the effect ya'll are making him out to have had. He had already lost his skill in 2012 and we got to the finals. The losses are on the entire team.


Yes, 'clearly', even though a better goaltender would've won more games than Brodeur did with the goal support he had.

 

Complete speculation. You have no idea how Cory would have played in those games.


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Posted 23 March 2014 - 11:30 PM

Complete speculation. You have no idea how Cory would have played in those games.

 

If Schneider is a true talent .920 goalie, the chances are small that he'd have a .900 SV%.


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Posted 24 March 2014 - 09:00 AM

I don't doubt there are games that would have gone differently if a million things about the game were different. Marty has not had the effect ya'll are making him out to have had. He had already lost his skill in 2012 and we got to the finals. The losses are on the entire team.


 

Complete speculation. You have no idea how Cory would have played in those games.

 

In bold:  not really.  In 2011 and 2012 he was very good in the second halves of both seasons, and pretty consistent.  Last year and this, there's been some isolated bursts of good play, but no really extended stretches.  He's been a barometer of the Devils in a lot of ways this season...you just don't know what you're going to get from them from night to night.  The outcomes of their games almost feel completely random at this point.   


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