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Posted 10 April 2014 - 03:42 PM

Pretty spot-on DD56.  I've already "forgiven" him.  These last two years sucked, but the many that came before it didn't.  He's not the first former great who can't see what almost everyone else does.  Still wish he'd shut it, but I think he's just getting started.


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Posted 10 April 2014 - 03:51 PM

I have nothing to 'forgive' Marty for. Its water under the bridge to me. This season is over, what's done is done. Its time to move on after Sunday. I'm not going to harbor any bitterness against a man who did so much for the New Jersey Devils. I prefer he'd retire, but if he wants to play elsewhere... Its his life. I just don't want to see him embarrass himself.


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Posted 10 April 2014 - 04:03 PM

At this point, Marty is a falling star trying to say anything to save face, whether it's for his own mental self preservation or for someone dumb enough to sign him this summer. I don't agree with what he says, but I also think he's not in his right mind when he's saying it. He's reeling because this wasn't how it was supposed to end. He was supposed to retire the triumphant hero, and now he's facing the reality of fading away.

 

If I can use one of SterioDesign's relationship analogies, it's like someone getting dumped who wasn't expecting it. They say a lot of things out of fear and jealousy. In Marty's mind, he would be just as good as he was if only he got another chance, and he doesn't realize Deboer gave him way more chances than he deserved this season. For some reason, he still thinks there's a couple of drops in the tank. These last 2 years sucked. I think he will be forgiven once some time has gone by, similar to the Niedermayer situation.

 

Well said. I don't think anyone needs to forgive him. I'm one his harshest critics, and I don't think he needs to be forgiven. He's unaware that a 41/42 year-old goalie is not supposed to be great still and no amount of games is going to change that. That's not the worst thing in the world.

 

I do want to go over a few points from TG's article:

 

 

 

“That’s something that the situation I’m going to get myself in is something I’m going to be OK with,” he said. “So, if you see me here next year, it’s because I’m OK to be sharing the net or doing whatever I’m going to be told. But I’m not going to go through what I’ve done (this season): Thinking that you’re still No. 1 and next thing you know you’re just kind of yo-yoing up a little bit. I’m going to have the power of that next year. This year I didn’t have (it).” - See more at: http://blogs.northje...h.hctjB9LP.dpuf

 

This was an issue from the minute Cory was traded to the Devils and Lou said we had two #1s and Marty was still a #1. Then Pete said Brodeur was #1 too. There really shouldn't have been a debate, but no one wanted ruffle any feathers. Or maybe they underestimated how good Cory was or underestimated Brodeur's ego (not any different from any great) or overestimating his ability to be a starting goalie. 

 

I don't wish any GM or coach the decisions that need to be made. Remember how Lemaire described telling Shanahan he wasn't good enough to have a role on the Devils. It would almost be 10x harder due what Brodeur has meant to the franchise. Well it still should have been done in July-September, and it might have to be done this off-season. The Brodeur/Schneider paring was never going to work, and I don't know what Lou really expected. 

 

As for the "having the power" comment, I really don't get it. As a free agent you might be told things you want to hear or things you don't want to hear, but there will be no power in any other organization. I don't think anyone will tell you you are a starter, but even if they did, there is a good chance that would change with a snap of a finger.

 

Brodeur basically admits he was never happy sharing the net with Cory. He said all the right things in the off-season, but I guess he thought that his name or legacy would always give him the upper hand over Cory. So even with 3 months to digest the news, I don't believe he he was prepared for this. At the very least, he might have thought that some good teams would want a Marty Brodeur if the Devils went the other way. That never happened either.

 

Brodeur is right in a way. It is tough to play your best without seeing much game time. Both goalies dealt with it, though and one came out on top. The same goalie that would 99/100 come out on top if they each played 65 games. 


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Posted 10 April 2014 - 04:05 PM

I have nothing to 'forgive' Marty for. Its water under the bridge to me. This season is over, what's done is done. Its time to move on after Sunday. I'm not going to harbor any bitterness against a man who did so much for the New Jersey Devils. I prefer he'd retire, but if he wants to play elsewhere... Its his life. I just don't want to see him embarrass himself.

 

That's why I put "forgive" in quotes really...I wasn't holding any of this against him in the first place myself (I just want him to stop talking).  I just wish this had ended a little more smoothly and with less quotes like the ones that seem to be becoming a daily thing, but so be it.  It is what it is.


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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 04:21 PM

That's why I put "forgive" in quotes really...I wasn't holding any of this against him in the first place myself (I just want him to stop talking). I just wish this had ended a little more smoothly and with less quotes like the ones that seem to be becoming a daily thing, but so be it. It is what it is.

Yeah we're on the same page about the situation CR. That's exactly how I feel.


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Posted 10 April 2014 - 04:38 PM

Man why does that sound so freaking familair.....


 

Broduer thought about stopping these types of quotes, but it keeps squeaking through.

 

Hmmm, it seems that Brodeur has had trouble stopping more than just quotes this year...


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Posted 10 April 2014 - 04:44 PM

Seriously, he is the greatest !   It has just been tough to not have him go out ala Rivera, and likely Jeter.


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Posted 10 April 2014 - 04:45 PM

dr33:  they expected Brodeur to get hurt.  He's 41 going on 42.  He's been hurt in each of the last 3 seasons and 4 of the last 5.  Why wouldn't it happen this year?

 

EDIT:  I also think Brodeur didn't realize how bad it would feel to be sitting half the games.  I imagine after the Schneider deal he knew what that meant - I don't think he was delusional enough to think that NJ dealt a 1st round pick for a guy they weren't going to use - but that he really hadn't been in this spot in his career.  It has to be very difficult knowing that you're being squeezed out of the NHL and not able to do anything about it, and I imagine Brodeur felt that a lot on the bench this year.

 

It's also clear from this that Brodeur called the shots to a large degree about when he played in previous years, which is something we all suspected.


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Posted 10 April 2014 - 04:47 PM

oh, thankfully there's just 72 hours left of this bullsh*t.   


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Posted 10 April 2014 - 04:54 PM

oh, thankfully there's just 72 hours left of this bullsh*t.   

 

there's way more of it left.  Who is going to sign Brodeur in the summer?  If the two or three teams that might have interest in Brodeur pass on him, that leaves no one.  It only ends when he goes somewhere else.  Which might not be until November or even later.


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Posted 10 April 2014 - 04:59 PM

oh, thankfully there's just 72 hours left of this bullsh*t.   

 

 

Oh no...there is far more than 72 hours left of quotes

 

There will be a few throughout the summer, and a bunch right before/after July 1...when Marty likely signs a deal with another team


there's way more of it left.  Who is going to sign Brodeur in the summer?  If the two or three teams that might have interest in Brodeur pass on him, that leaves no one.  It only ends when he goes somewhere else.  Which might not be until November or even later.

 

 

I have to think there is at least *1* team that would love to have him as a backup and veteran presence on their team...

 

Especially when he will likely come at a rather cheap price....


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Posted 10 April 2014 - 05:00 PM

Tri, I don't disagree with you.   For me personally, there's 72 hours left.  I won't follow what happens with #30 unless he is re-signed.

 

I believe #30 will not announce any retirement until 2015.  He'll try to get on some team before July 1, after July 1, before Camp, after Camp, and during the season he'll still be waiting on someone else to get injured...so I don't expect him to announce anything before mid-December..


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Posted 10 April 2014 - 05:05 PM

ThreeCups:  Read the quotes, Brodeur does not want to be a backup.  He's said all along he wants to play more than he has this year.  Well, this year he's played 37 games.  If he wanted to be a backup this wouldn't be an issue, he could stay here or go somewhere else.  He doesn't want to backup.


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Posted 10 April 2014 - 05:08 PM

Scary thought time:

 

Marty doesn't get signed by anyone but doesn't consider himself retired, Cory gets hurt in November sometime and looks like he's going to miss 6-8 weeks minimum, and the Devils' backup is clearly nothing more than a backup...

 

Admittedly, I didn't consider the "Marty might still be a UFA after the season" scenario, but there it is...yikes...


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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 05:31 PM

Here is another gem from brodeur today. He is basically blaming his poor performances on him not getting enough playing time in a row while saying that's the reason why Cory has done so well. Just leave already.

"I had my chance. I had some games. It's easy for him(DeBoer) to make switches but it's hard for a goalie to get on a roll when you don't play," Brodeur said. "You look at Cory and he's playing unbelievable right now. There's a reason. He's playing a lot."

http://www.nj.com/de...t_river_default

 

To be fair he is right when he says that its hard for a goalie to get on a roll when you don't play, well at least for me and every goalie I know or played with.   


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Posted 10 April 2014 - 07:45 PM

Hey, Marty gon' be Marty. Guy is having a hard time accepting his fate.


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Posted 10 April 2014 - 08:45 PM

Scary thought time:

 

Marty doesn't get signed by anyone but doesn't consider himself retired, Cory gets hurt in November sometime and looks like he's going to miss 6-8 weeks minimum, and the Devils' backup is clearly nothing more than a backup...

 

Admittedly, I didn't consider the "Marty might still be a UFA after the season" scenario, but there it is...yikes...

 

Why did you have to bring that Pandora's Box out :P  It's not exactly unprecedented either since it happened with Beezer...


there's way more of it left.  Who is going to sign Brodeur in the summer?  If the two or three teams that might have interest in Brodeur pass on him, that leaves no one.  It only ends when he goes somewhere else.  Which might not be until November or even later.

 

Not to mention if Marty's this 'open and honest' while still here just wait till he's not under contract with us anymore.


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Posted 10 April 2014 - 09:41 PM

ThreeCups:  Read the quotes, Brodeur does not want to be a backup.  He's said all along he wants to play more than he has this year.  Well, this year he's played 37 games.  If he wanted to be a backup this wouldn't be an issue, he could stay here or go somewhere else.  He doesn't want to backup.

 

 

Realistically, the best case scenario for Marty is that he goes to a team that will allow him to "compete" for a starting job....

 

Do you guys think he is just saying this stuff, or if he truly believes it's going to be that easy for him?


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Posted 10 April 2014 - 10:17 PM

Realistically, the best case scenario for Marty is that he goes to a team that will allow him to "compete" for a starting job....

 

Do you guys think he is just saying this stuff, or if he truly believes it's going to be that easy for him?

 

Marty can't compete for the starting job on any team in the league.

 

He is having a hard time accepting that he is not good anymore but deep down he knows. He has said so pretty clearly "I am trying to prove to myself that I can still play" (or something of the sort) and that he doesn't 'necessarily need to go to a team where he can start" (or something of the sort).


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 08:52 AM

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