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#1 Devilstail

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Posted 30 March 2014 - 12:24 AM

Devils just suck so bad now its embarrassing.
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Posted 30 March 2014 - 03:32 AM

Considering the experts predicted us to be in the bottom 5 in the league, we didn't do too badly.


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Posted 30 March 2014 - 06:37 AM

The Olympic Break crushed any mojo that we had.  If this season were a horse, we'd have been put down by now


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Posted 30 March 2014 - 06:58 AM

even before the olympic break, we couldnt put any kind of winning streak together or be consistant at all. This is just not a very good team who absolutely can't score


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Posted 30 March 2014 - 07:13 AM

I guess it could be worse, we could be like the Leafs who blew it all with 8 straight losses.

 

 

I think next season is gonna be just as frustrating, as I do not see any big improvements happening.

We'll be lucky to be in a playoff spot next March


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Posted 30 March 2014 - 09:10 AM

The problem with some of these posts are - they hey at least we aren't the leafs, or we did better than we were projected.

 

The real issue is the mismanagement of the team.  I don't think it completely falls on Lou, but he is partially to blame.  We have like 9 NHL defensemen some we can't properly develop.  We have a bunch of 2nd/3rd/4th liners on the team.  Obviously we are a team that will live and die by the 1 goal game and you'd think Lou would do more to get better shootout guys. When the Pens picked up Jokinen last yr on waivers, he would have been perfect for us for the shootout.  Lou would rather have a guy like Clowe - who although I like what he brings to the table, he isn't going to light anything on fire.

 

The whole brodeur/schneider thing has been a mess and total mismanagement as well.

 

I think it's time for the Marty/Lou/DeBoer show to go and time to fully transition into a new era.  Now i dont think we need to rebuild, but we need to move past some of the Devils stubborn habits of the past that won't get us anywhere


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Posted 30 March 2014 - 09:46 AM

The problem with some of these posts are - they hey at least we aren't the leafs, or we did better than we were projected.

 

The real issue is the mismanagement of the team.  I don't think it completely falls on Lou, but he is partially to blame.  We have like 9 NHL defensemen some we can't properly develop.  We have a bunch of 2nd/3rd/4th liners on the team.  Obviously we are a team that will live and die by the 1 goal game and you'd think Lou would do more to get better shootout guys. When the Pens picked up Jokinen last yr on waivers, he would have been perfect for us for the shootout.  Lou would rather have a guy like Clowe - who although I like what he brings to the table, he isn't going to light anything on fire.

 

The whole brodeur/schneider thing has been a mess and total mismanagement as well.

 

I think it's time for the Marty/Lou/DeBoer show to go and time to fully transition into a new era.  Now i dont think we need to rebuild, but we need to move past some of the Devils stubborn habits of the past that won't get us anywhere

 

Great post, im really enjoying seeing people starting to turn the corner about Lou. He was great and all but way too many people we're almost scared to say anything bad about him as if it was a sacrilege or something and we're in total denial defending all his bad moves.

 

Im a kind of guy that will call a cat a cat, when Lou deserves credits i'll give it to him no problem. But i certainly won't close my eyes on the bad ones either. Not that i expect him to be perfect but most of his big mistakes we're not things that didnt pan out, they we're mostly all decision made out of stubborness. Which is what pissing me off so bad about him.

 

I and we always will be thankful for what he did in the past but that's really in the past now and since the lockout he really didnt do much.


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Posted 30 March 2014 - 09:47 AM

Obviously we are a team that will live and die by the 1 goal game and you'd think Lou would do more to get better shootout guys. When the Pens picked up Jokinen last yr on waivers, he would have been perfect for us for the shootout. 

 

You are hindsighting this like a true pro. The Devils were fine in the shootout until this season and even while losing Kovalchuk certainly didn't help the shootout, the guys Lou added weren't terrible in that format: http://www.nhl.com/i...terCareerTotals

 

Jokinen was waived without being claimed, so Carolina traded him for a conditional pick AND had to retain salary to get rid of him.


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Posted 30 March 2014 - 12:47 PM

Considering the experts predicted us to be in the bottom 5 in the league, we didn't do too badly.

you just have all the answers.. wake up and just accept the fact that the team is not good and they are not going to make the playoffs..
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Posted 30 March 2014 - 12:49 PM

you just have all the answers.. wake up and just accept the fact that the team is not good and they are not going to make the playoffs..

 

This post has nothing to do with the post you just quoted.  It's essentially a fact that even if we do miss the playoffs, we did better than people thought we would.


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Posted 30 March 2014 - 12:50 PM

Pete's a fine coach. His hands are tied.

Develop the D, acquire offense, lock up Cory. Perennial contender
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Posted 30 March 2014 - 12:57 PM

Pete's a fine coach. His hands are tied.

Develop the D, acquire offense, lock up Cory. Perennial contender

 

I agree.  But he shouldn't constantly change the lines every single time it goes into a dry spell.  At least in my opinion.  The key is to develop chemistry.  It's hard to do that with different combinations every week.


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Posted 30 March 2014 - 01:15 PM

If we could have gotten an extra point in less than half of the shootouts we've been in, we'd be in the playoffs and this thread wouldn't exist.  


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Posted 30 March 2014 - 01:18 PM

This post has nothing to do with the post you just quoted.  It's essentially a fact that even if we do miss the playoffs, we did better than people thought we would.

it was more so directed to you always having some answer for everything
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Posted 30 March 2014 - 03:41 PM

You are hindsighting this like a true pro. The Devils were fine in the shootout until this season and even while losing Kovalchuk certainly didn't help the shootout, the guys Lou added weren't terrible in that format: http://www.nhl.com/i...terCareerTotals

 

Jokinen was waived without being claimed, so Carolina traded him for a conditional pick AND had to retain salary to get rid of him.

 

The issue here is that its not just losing kovalchuk.  We lost Parise too.  We lost Gionta as well.  Patty is the only one really that led to our shootout success that is still there.  If you remember - probably not -- i was one who wanted Parise traded at the deadline before he left us as a free agent.  I said you couldnt lose a guy like that for nothing.  Teams see it coming -  Lou plays stubborn thinking he can sign all of his FA's and to be honest he is about 50 pct on the players he wants to resign.  And his "B" plan of trying to sign 2-3 "B" rate players to replace said "A Rate" player usually doesn't work. 


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 03:53 PM

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Develop the D, acquire offense, lock up Cory. Perennial contender


I feel like this message could've been written about the Devils/Rockies 30 years ago. Something like: Lock up Chico, develop Cirella and Daneyko, acquire some scorers. Then we're set, right? If this is where we are at then we have taken quite a few steps back peeps.
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 04:27 PM

The Olympic Break crushed any mojo that we had.  If this season were a horse, we'd have been put down by now

 

We went 5-2 right after the break...if you're going to look for a turning point it was the Florida trip right after that.


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 04:32 PM

I feel like this message could've been written about the Devils/Rockies 30 years ago. Something like: Lock up Chico, develop Cirella and Daneyko, acquire some scorers. Then we're set, right? If this is where we are at then we have taken quite a few steps back peeps.

 

Well figuring on Chico still being here alongside Daneyko and Cirella that would place us at 85-86 which would've been the only year they all played together for more than a couple of games (Dano only played 11 games in 83-84 and only 1 in 84-85). At that point we'd be two years removed from a trip to the Conference Finals and 9 years away from our first Cup. Step back? Yeah, but not as terrible as bringing up the dreaded Red Yellow Blue name would imply.


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 06:17 PM

I feel like this message could've been written about the Devils/Rockies 30 years ago. Something like: Lock up Chico, develop Cirella and Daneyko, acquire some scorers. Then we're set, right? If this is where we are at then we have taken quite a few steps back peeps.

Christ man, that is a bit of a doomsday way of looking at things. This is a team that completely sh!t the bed this year, and is going to JUST miss the playoffs. We aren't 20-50-12 here. Most of the pieces are here. A solid coach with a good system who has the respect of the players, a all star caliber goalie, an offense of complimentary players missing a go-to-guy, with a mix of an old damaged defense and three players seeing significant time on defense doing a damn fine job.

 

Saying Daneyko and Cirella compared to Larsson, Merrill, Gelinas, Severson, Santini, Scarlet, etc is a bit short sighted I would say. We have a plethora of top notch prospects on the blueline. No, not all of them are going to pan out, but at least three of them look capable of playing already. I don't think they are going to get worse. 


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 10:23 PM

Besides Chico was what, 32 when he got traded here initially?  That comparison's just wrong on so many levels.


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