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#1 mfitz804

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 08:46 PM

I do not think there is any question if he were still on the team, his 60 points wins us at least another 5 games, and we are in the playoffs.

I hate when people don't live up to the deals they makes thanks for nothing, Ilya, go Kovalfvck yourself.
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Posted 10 April 2014 - 08:50 PM

I think it's pretty undeniable that the Devils are much, much better off in the long run without him and that albatross of a contract.

That being said, I do miss him in a Devils sweater. He was an exciting player.

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 08:58 PM

I think it's pretty undeniable that the Devils are much, much better off in the long run without him and that albatross of a contract.

That being said, I do miss him in a Devils sweater. He was an exciting player.

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 09:00 PM

Kovy = No Jagr... I would bet at least
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Posted 10 April 2014 - 09:14 PM

I am so not in the mood for this discussion.


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Posted 10 April 2014 - 09:44 PM

I do dream of a PP with Jagr and Kovy on it....lethal.


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Posted 10 April 2014 - 09:56 PM

Kovy = No Jagr... I would bet at least

 

Pretty much...and at the rate it's going in a year or two we'll be glad Kovy isn't here.  He's breaking down and didn't have all that great a year in Russia.


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Posted 10 April 2014 - 09:59 PM

I do not think there is any question if he were still on the team, his 60 points wins us at least another 5 games, and we are in the playoffs.

I hate when people don't live up to the deals they makes thanks for nothing, Ilya, go Kovalfvck yourself.

 

There is no way that Kovalchuk was worth 5 wins a year.  He wasn't very good in Russia this year and he ended the year hurt again.  Plus his salary was $11M, so if you think NJ was budget conscious this year, take 3 players the Devils signed in the offseason and throw them off the team.  It can be any 3, but you have to take 3 off.


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Posted 10 April 2014 - 10:20 PM

A healthy younger Kovalchuk maybe but I would rather have a 42 year old Jagr over this year versions of Kovalchuk. Who the hell would have thought that a few seasons ago!
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Posted 11 April 2014 - 03:11 AM

At least Kovy can score in the shootouts  :ninja:


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 03:19 AM

Not a chance dude.  You can go back and look at what Kovy used to be, but its not like he tore it up in Russia this year, he very well could be almost done with his hockey career.  He needs to take the KHL offseason and get as healthy as possible and be able to stay healthy throughout a season.

A quitter such as Kovalchuk is not worth your time.  Or to be honest, your memory.


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 03:57 AM

Whose 60 points do you take away? Because, like Tri said, you're not just adding on top considering salary and ice time.


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 07:13 AM

All hypothetical of course, but I think if Kovy had stayed, the team would not only have been a little worse record-wise, but I think we would've been bitching about Kovy's lack of production all season long.  I think he would've had a year similar to 2010-11...slightly better defensively and slightly worse offensively, but somewhere in that neighborhood.  I also think there would've been a lot of "Jesus Christ, I can't believe we have to deal with 10+ years of this crap!  Take out 2012, and this guy has been pretty disappointing...man, he's looking more and more like a shell of what he used to be...and he's becoming injury-prone..." etc.

 

And I think Kovy knew it would go this way too.  Moving to the KHL made sense for him on all levels...he still gets paid a lot of coin, he's the hometown boy who spurned the NHL to play in his country, and he only has to play in 52 regular season games against lesser competition, where it will be a lot easier to look good (and he wound up NOT looking good). 


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 09:32 AM

There is no way that Kovalchuk was worth 5 wins a year.  He wasn't very good in Russia this year and he ended the year hurt again.  Plus his salary was $11M, so if you think NJ was budget conscious this year, take 3 players the Devils signed in the offseason and throw them off the team.  It can be any 3, but you have to take 3 off.

 

So what you're saying is no Clowe, no Ryder, and no Brunner? 

 

In hindsight that looks amazing... lol. I'm just kidding with you, but we busted on all 3 of these signings too. Too bad Clowe is so injury prone, bc he makes great plays for a guy that size.


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 09:35 AM

Losing Kovy sucked, but I think Jagr pretty much matched the production that Kovy would have this year, so really that was a wash.

 

There are just so many things wrong with the team that it is hard to pin them on a single player leaving or coming.  However, I do not think any of them are huge, glaring issues so there is hope.


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 10:53 AM

I don't think having Kovy would have necessarily meant no Jagr. But I can't help but think he could have pushed us over the edge. 

 

And I am not saying the contract was worth 5 extra wins a year. But he was already here. In the long term, yeah having that contract off the books will be great. 

 

Plus I just like the phrase "Kovalfvck". 


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 03:33 PM

i miss having him on this team a lot.. he was fun to watch and have on our side.. would definently have a spot if he was still here i bet
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