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#41 Devilsfan118

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 08:08 PM

People seem to think Kincaid is ready. Might as well give him a shot.

I'm sure there will be backup goalies available in free agency well into the start of the season if he doesn't work out.

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 09:51 PM

Shouldn't you be one of the top AHL goalies in SV% before you move on to the NHL? I'm not really sure how it works, but I'd imagine we'd want Kinkaid to be a top 10 AHL goalie before he's ready to back up Cory.

 

My guess is Lou goes with someone like Montoya. Not sure how I'd feel if Kinkaid became our number one goaltender if Cory got injured.


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 10:15 PM

People seem to think Kincaid is ready. Might as well give him a shot.

I'm sure there will be backup goalies available in free agency well into the start of the season if he doesn't work out.

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Kinkaid has one more year of waiver ineligibility and his SV% in Albany doesn't scream 'ready' - I'd rather get a veteran backup for one year then make a decision on Kinkaid.


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 10:47 PM

im getting confused between kincaid and wedgewood, one i saw gave up 3 and was awesome and the other gave up one and was day dreaming

 

montoya would be good


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 10:49 PM

im getting confused between kincaid and wedgewood, one i saw gave up 3 and was awesome and the other gave up one and was day dreaming
montoya would be good

yea wasn't it Kinkaid who made his first nhl save on a breakaway? I actually think it was on Stamkos too
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Posted 16 June 2014 - 11:42 PM

yea wasn't it Kinkaid who made his first nhl save on a breakaway? I actually think it was on Stamkos too

I don't remember if that was his first save, but that was him that played in that game. I remember the Stamkos breakaway. He looked shaky in that game despite only getting scored on once.

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 06:19 AM

I think the days of a goalie playing 70 games are over. You need a backup who can play. Since we aren't sure if KK is ready, get a veteran in here who can handle a small workload. Injuries happen, KK will be brought up and then he can prove himself.


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Posted 17 June 2014 - 06:36 AM

Kinkaid has one more year of waiver ineligibility and his SV% in Albany doesn't scream 'ready' - I'd rather get a veteran backup for one year then make a decision on Kinkaid.

 

I think how Lou handles this will speak volumes as to what he thinks of Kinkaid's NHL future.  He made it clear when he dealt a 1st-rounder for Cory that he didn't think Kinkaid or Wedge were the answers, as far as the Devils' #1 goalie of the future goes.  If he goes out and gets a backup and signs him to more than one season, then you can probably write off Kinkaid having any future here with the big club (barring injuries to Cory or his backup).  If Lou signs a backup to one season, I'm guessing he wants to see what both Kinkaid and Wedge do with Albany.  If one or both succeed, then maybe they get a shot in 2015-2016.  The more I think about it, the more I hope that Lou goes out and signs a backup, because if Kinkaid got his chance this season and faltered, and Marty was still available...well, you know...


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Posted 17 June 2014 - 06:58 AM

I think how Lou handles this will speak volumes as to what he thinks of Kinkaid's NHL future.  He made it clear when he dealt a 1st-rounder for Cory that he didn't think Kinkaid or Wedge were the answers, as far as the Devils' #1 goalie of the future goes.  If he goes out and gets a backup and signs him to more than one season, then you can probably write off Kinkaid having any future here with the big club (barring injuries to Cory or his backup).  If Lou signs a backup to one season, I'm guessing he wants to see what both Kinkaid and Wedge do with Albany.  If one or both succeed, then maybe they get a shot in 2015-2016.  The more I think about it, the more I hope that Lou goes out and signs a backup, because if Kinkaid got his chance this season and faltered, and Marty was still available...well, you know...

 

I think you are over-thinking it a bit. The Schneider trade was a must deal. Even if you think Kinkaid or Wedgewood could be something and have an NHL future, how long can you wait for them to be ready with Brodeur getting older and injured a lot.

 

Even if Lou gets a vet backup (I think it's almost a lock he does), it doesn't mean Kinkaid's career is over with the Devils. It's up to him to be really good at the AHL level this season. He was for a bit last season, and then his numbers dropped off. He gives a .920+ sabe percentage season, and there definitely could be a spot for him behind someone (please let it be Cory).


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Posted 17 June 2014 - 08:16 AM

I think how Lou handles this will speak volumes as to what he thinks of Kinkaid's NHL future.  He made it clear when he dealt a 1st-rounder for Cory that he didn't think Kinkaid or Wedge were the answers, as far as the Devils' #1 goalie of the future goes.  If he goes out and gets a backup and signs him to more than one season, then you can probably write off Kinkaid having any future here with the big club (barring injuries to Cory or his backup).  If Lou signs a backup to one season, I'm guessing he wants to see what both Kinkaid and Wedge do with Albany.  If one or both succeed, then maybe they get a shot in 2015-2016.  The more I think about it, the more I hope that Lou goes out and signs a backup, because if Kinkaid got his chance this season and faltered, and Marty was still available...well, you know...

 

Lou could go get a legit NHL starter with a good contract for an 8th overall pick. That's a deal you make any day, almost regardless of what you have in the cupboard at that position. Even if Kinkaid or Wedgewood would somehow super-develop into ready starters this or next year it means you have assets you can deal to recoup some of what you gave up for Schneider...or you have depth at a key position and don't have to overplay Schneider (which is key considering all the b2b games NJ plays).


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Posted 17 June 2014 - 03:55 PM

how about guillermo ochoa ok no


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Posted 23 June 2014 - 07:37 AM

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Posted this in another thread, BUT I'd love for Lou to take a chance on this guy.  He hasn't been able to put together a good season since playing on the Predators, but I think he's been very much victimized by the teams he's played behind.  He got manhandled in Tampa due to that teams abysmal defense through the majority of this past season.  However he played okay in front of Nashville, a defense first team.  So I'd love to see him in a Devils jersey for a season to see how he does.  Who knows, maybe he'll have a great season behind Cory and then we have an actual asset to trade. 


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Posted 23 June 2014 - 10:41 AM

didnt Marty have an under 900 save % in the AHL?

some goalies make the jump to the NHL and run with it regardless of their performance down in the minors

 

I personally would rather have a veteran as a backup but we'll see


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Posted 23 June 2014 - 10:47 AM

didnt Marty have an under 900 save % in the AHL?

some goalies make the jump to the NHL and run with it regardless of their performane down in the minors

 

I personally would rather have a veteran as a backup but we'll see

 

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:53 PM

didnt Marty have an under 900 save % in the AHL?

some goalies make the jump to the NHL and run with it regardless of their performane down in the minors

 

I personally would rather have a veteran as a backup but we'll see

 

Name me one other goalie that did this.  Yeah, a goalie's best NHL years will trump his best AHL years, almost always.  But there aren't many guys who manage this - most are really good in the AHL or in European pro leagues and become good in the NHL.


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Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:56 PM

If Anders Lindback isn't qualified i'd love him as a backup, really liked him ever since his Nashville days


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Posted 23 June 2014 - 07:14 PM

I'd rather pass on Lindback. He was a fine back up his 2 years in Nashville (.914 SV%) but his play has really fallen off in Tampa (.897 SV%). He faced almost the same shots against per 60 on both teams too.
 


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Posted 23 June 2014 - 07:19 PM

I'd rather pass on Lindback. He was a fine back up his 2 years in Nashville (.914 SV%) but his play has really fallen off in Tampa (.897 SV%). He faced almost the same shots against per 60 on both teams too.
 

 

I'd be inclined to agree however, unless you're Marc Denis, our system tends to help goalies.


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Posted 23 June 2014 - 07:28 PM

I'd pass on Lindback. I've never seem such a big goalie play so small and his positioning is terrible. Plus he has a weird habit with his glove hand, it's hard to explain but he has a very strange way of catching pucks and he often whiffs on them.
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Posted 23 June 2014 - 07:48 PM

Name me one other goalie that did this.  Yeah, a goalie's best NHL years will trump his best AHL years, almost always.  But there aren't many guys who manage this - most are really good in the AHL or in European pro leagues and become good in the NHL.

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theres a bunch of them, Roy didnt have great numbers when Montreal called him up, Ed Belfour too


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