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#121 Devil Dan 56

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 12:03 AM

I was aware of that as I was typing but I included it anyway. However, the second part of my post is true: Look at what we lost compared to what we signed in regards to free agency and there's definitely an imbalance.

 

But look at why they left. You can't complain that we have to overpay and then complain that players left because we wouldn't. Free agency is overpayment. That's the name of the game. How many big free agents signed reasonable contracts? 


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Posted 25 June 2014 - 12:03 AM

I was aware of that as I was typing but I included it anyway. However, the second part of my post is true: Look at what we lost compared to what we signed in regards to free agency and there's definitely an imbalance.

There will always be an imbalance, in a good or bad way. We lost a lot of good players but we gained Zubrus Kovalchuk Tallinder Zidliky Volchenkov and they helped the team to the Cup. What if Ryder Clowe and Brunner panned out this season? Maybe you'd have a different opinion. It's all about adapting, lets see what happens this summer.
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Posted 25 June 2014 - 11:17 AM

Again, show me even rumors that a notable free agent has waived their NTC/NMC clause to be traded to several teams including NJ. Your list of free agents that left NJ far outweighs what we've gained as far as impact.

Zidlicky. And we were the only team he wanted to go to.

This idea of us being Siberia is way overstated. If it was that undesirable you wouldn't have had Marty staying 20 years, Elias playing his whole career here and other alums constantly coming back. Jagr could have wrote his own ticket almost anywhere after last year but he came back. Hell even Zubrus has signed here for nine years over two contracts.

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 11:28 AM

NJ is clearly middle of the pack as NHL destinations go.  It's near New York, taxes aren't as bad as Canada, the weather isn't great but not Canada bad, and if you like not being hassled everywhere you go that's a plus too.  There's been a lot of stability at the GM spot in NJ also.


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Posted 25 June 2014 - 11:32 AM

NJ is just not that sexy.


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Posted 25 June 2014 - 11:34 AM

Vokoun for a backup


Doesn't he have some health issues? I'd be okay on a one yr incentive laden deal provided his health checks out.
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Posted 25 June 2014 - 11:37 AM

NJ is clearly middle of the pack as NHL destinations go. It's near New York, taxes aren't as bad as Canada, the weather isn't great but not Canada bad, and if you like not being hassled everywhere you go that's a plus too. There's been a lot of stability at the GM spot in NJ also.


Found something we agree on finally. While everybody thinks all the Canadian players want to play in Canada I've recalled reading or hearing just as many that would prefer not to.

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 01:40 PM

Vokoun for a backup 

 

Yes please.


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Posted 25 June 2014 - 01:46 PM

Found something we agree on finally. While everybody thinks all the Canadian players want to play in Canada I've recalled reading or hearing just as many that would prefer not to.

 

No one thinks that except Leafs fans.


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Posted 25 June 2014 - 01:47 PM

Yes please.

Agreed.  I think he can still play 20 games in this league.  He's been such an under the radar guy for so many years, never considered elite, but never has a really poor save %.  Oh, and don't forget, Czech Nation aka New Jersey.


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Posted 25 June 2014 - 01:56 PM

Didn't Vokoun had a shaky relationship with Deboer? Or am I thinking it was Clemmensen.
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Posted 25 June 2014 - 02:24 PM

Didn't Vokoun had a shaky relationship with Deboer? Or am I thinking it was Clemmensen.

He'd be a freaking backup.  I don't care what kind of a relationship he has/had with Deboer.  "You're a backup! Keep the bench warm unless the starter goes down and don't cause trouble in the locker room." 


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Posted 25 June 2014 - 02:34 PM

He'd be a freaking backup. I don't care what kind of a relationship he has/had with Deboer. "You're a backup! Keep the bench warm unless the starter goes down and don't cause trouble in the locker room."

Yes, this is EXACTLY how that works.

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 02:37 PM

Yes, this is EXACTLY how that works.

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That is EXACTLY how Hedberg was.  Probably the most team-friendly backup you could have in the room.  He played phenomenal when he was needed until he flopped bad when Marty went down in '13.   Once your play goes down the drain, it doesn't matter if you help disadvantaged kids in the offseason or work in soup kitchens in your free time. 


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Posted 25 June 2014 - 02:39 PM

That is EXACTLY how Hedberg was. Probably the most team-friendly backup you could have in the room. He played phenomenal when he was needed until he flopped bad when Marty went down in '13.

Clueless.

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 02:41 PM

Clueless.

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No more than you are.  Is there an argument in that insult?


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Posted 25 June 2014 - 02:46 PM

No more than you are. Is there an argument in that insult?

I don't need to argue with anyone that truly believes that a coach goes to the goaltender on their team and says shut up and sit on the bench, of course unless I need you. Also, do not throw any keggers on nights before games or bang Mrs. Elias.

I can't even begin to argue with this.

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 02:47 PM

Clueless.

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How is that clueless? Vokoun has experience as a starter and at one time he was doing a decent job starting for Pitt. Hedberg was never a starter and couldn't handle the workload when Marty was on LTIR.


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Posted 25 June 2014 - 02:49 PM

Yes, this is EXACTLY how that works.

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I really think this is how it works. Whoever comes to NJ, it will be clear they are a backup to Schneider. Past beef or not, that player will be signing knowing exactly the expectations. As a backup, you keep quiet, work hard and be ready to go when your name is called.

 

Problems arise when there are no clear roles and a coach goes game to game. Kind of like this past year in NJ.


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Posted 25 June 2014 - 02:51 PM

I don't need to argue with anyone that truly believes that a coach goes to the goaltender on their team and says shut up and sit on the bench, of course unless I need you. Also, do not throw any keggers on nights before games or bang Mrs. Elias.

I can't even begin to argue with this.

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I'm not being completely literal, just like your quoted post isn't entirely serious.  I'm saying that in a nutshell, that is the backups role and mentality. 


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