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If Schneider will not sign an extension this summer Lou should...

  1. Trade him immediately (32 votes [62.75%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 62.75%

  2. Continue to try to sign him until he's a UFA (19 votes [37.25%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 37.25%

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#21 Chuck the Duck

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 01:48 PM

If I'm Lou I make him my best offer this summer and, if he doesn't sign an extension by the middle of August, you trade him.  We already have been set back for years with the losses of Parise and Kovalchuk for abosultely nothing.  Losing Cory for nothing after next season will set us back even further. 


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 01:56 PM

I don't see why "August" has to be the deadline. We have him, guaranteed, this coming season. Zajac signed his new contract in January, so there's no need to be so hurried. A trade offer in August is not going to differ much from the deadline and its possible a deadline offer could be even sweeter if from a team on the cusp that need a tender and overpay. If he's not extended by the start of this coming season I won't bat an eye. If we go into next offseason without him re-signed and have to deal with the Parise/Kovalchuk ridiculousness, then heads need to roll (Lou).

 

Anyone expecting a massive return for a guy with only 1 year remaining and no guarantee of signing at his new home is kidding themselves.


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#23 Marv4Life

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 02:16 PM

Thing is if you do trade him(hopefully he signs on) we need a #1 and sorry but MB30 ain't gonna get it done.
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Posted 11 April 2014 - 02:33 PM

Thing is if you do trade him(hopefully he signs on) we need a #1 and sorry but MB30 ain't gonna get it done.

 

If you trade him, you are trying to lose.  Therefore, you sign back MB30 in an instant.  

 

You can't wait until August to trade a goalie, who is going to want a goalie then?  You have to talk to his agent in June and if the agent says no we're not amenable to making a deal, you deal him at the draft (preferably for a 2015 1st), you sign Brodeur, you don't sign Jagr or Zidlicky or Fayne, and you let the team lose hard, because they will, and hopefully you end up with a top 5 pick out of it.


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 02:37 PM

I don't see why "August" has to be the deadline. We have him, guaranteed, this coming season. Zajac signed his new contract in January, so there's no need to be so hurried. A trade offer in August is not going to differ much from the deadline and its possible a deadline offer could be even sweeter if from a team on the cusp that need a tender and overpay. If he's not extended by the start of this coming season I won't bat an eye. If we go into next offseason without him re-signed and have to deal with the Parise/Kovalchuk ridiculousness, then heads need to roll (Lou).

 

Anyone expecting a massive return for a guy with only 1 year remaining and no guarantee of signing at his new home is kidding themselves.

 

Zajac's contract was pretty much finalized during the summer and was just waiting on the lockout to end to be announced. If it hadn't been for the lockout causing both sides to wait a minute, they'd have had it done mid-August. Lou doesn't generally do contracts mid-season with the only exceptions being guys who he's had such close dealings with for so long as to make the contract more or less academic.

 

As far as why August, it's because you need the time to do two things: get the best possible value (as you get closer to training camp you're looking at lousier pickings for trade returns because more partners have finalized their situations) and to take care of your own situation assuming that part of the return for him isn't the goalie you're needing. As far as getting a massive return, if we could get something even remotely similar to a deal similar to what Miller brought Buffalo I'd be positively thrilled and that was with him getting traded at the worst possible time (from my perspective given that I consider goalies entering new teams at that point in the year a dangerous proposition to a playoff bound team) without the benefit of his age, and without the benefit of a full season from him. Obviously I don't necessarily think we'd get that kind of return, but I also don't want to wait and see what the market's like for goalies in March of next season and be in the position of weighing two months of Schneider vs no return at all if he leaves.


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 02:40 PM

I don't see why "August" has to be the deadline. We have him, guaranteed, this coming season. Zajac signed his new contract in January, so there's no need to be so hurried. A trade offer in August is not going to differ much from the deadline and its possible a deadline offer could be even sweeter if from a team on the cusp that need a tender and overpay. If he's not extended by the start of this coming season I won't bat an eye. If we go into next offseason without him re-signed and have to deal with the Parise/Kovalchuk ridiculousness, then heads need to roll (Lou).

 

Anyone expecting a massive return for a guy with only 1 year remaining and no guarantee of signing at his new home is kidding themselves.

 

Zajac signed in January because of the lockout and the fact that he wasn't able to sign an extension until the new CBA was agreed to.

 

I just picked August out of thin air, although a trade at the draft of prior to the start of FA is the most likely scenario.    


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 02:59 PM

I voted continue to sign him BUT if he hasn't signed by the trade deadline then his ass better be gone for something good in return.


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 03:08 PM

He's worth a 1st round pick and maybe a little something extra for someone drafting in the 20s range.  One year left and then he can go wherever?  

 

 

 

I think Buffalo got more than that for Miller.  Couple picks, 20 goal scorer in Stewart and Halak. 


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 03:09 PM

Objectively speaking, if you were Cory Scheider, would you want to sign here? I wouldn't.


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 03:10 PM

I think Buffalo got more than that for Miller.  Couple picks, 20 goal scorer in Stewart and Halak. 

 

Stewart is not worth very much at his current contract, and Miller was traded at the deadline.  The Blues admitted that they were not in the market for 'a goaltender', they were in the market for 'this goaltender'.  If someone is definitely in the Schneider market then sure they can get more, but I'm not sure that'll be the case.


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 03:19 PM

I voted 'continue to try to sign him', although it depends on what the offer is. We only gave up a first round pick to get him so if we can actually get more than that I would take it.

 

I'd be curious to see what he's worth. He'll be a free agent next year so any trade would likely be a rental. Personally I'm not confident we'd get more than a first round pick. Miller was kind of the perfect storm where he was the best goalie available, had a good track record of success (regular season and Olympic, not playoff though), and the Blues we're elite everywhere but in net so it's worth the picks. Schneider doesn't have the track record.


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 03:41 PM

If I'm Lou I make him my best offer this summer and, if he doesn't sign an extension by the middle of August, you trade him.  We already have been set back for years with the losses of Parise and Kovalchuk for abosultely nothing.  Losing Cory for nothing after next season will set us back even further.

i think my feelings on this are pretty much in the same boat as yours here.. it would just be the biggest kick in the ass to have another basically star player walk away for nothing at all.. if he isnt going to sign then there is a reason for it maybe he has no faith in the team being a contender for upcoming seasons or whatever but then a decision needs to be made.
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Posted 11 April 2014 - 03:50 PM

Chuck the Duck, on 11 Apr 2014 - 3:40 PM, said:

Zajac signed in January because of the lockout and the fact that he wasn't able to sign an extension until the new CBA was agreed to.

 

I just picked August out of thin air, although a trade at the draft of prior to the start of FA is the most likely scenario.    

 

Point taken on Zajac. I forgot completely about the lockout.

 

That said, I'm willing to bet large that Cory Schneider is a Devil for a long time.


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 04:02 PM

If we have the resources from ownership Lou claims we have, you back the Brinks truck up to his apartment. That would be a statement to both the fans and free agents.
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Posted 11 April 2014 - 04:05 PM

the only thing about him that puts a sour taste in my mouth was that he refused to discuss possibly resigning with the team it was like he wasnt interested in it ... i feel like thats not a good sign to take from that
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Posted 11 April 2014 - 09:42 PM

The good card in the Devils favor is unlike Parise, Kovy, or even Niedermayer getting drawn to Anaheim for his brother Schneider's hometown team is stacked in goal for the next 5 years so the Bruins don't need him on the ice nor to sell tickets. M guess is that the deal gets done quickly.
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Posted 11 April 2014 - 09:44 PM

He's worth a 1st round pick and maybe a little something extra for someone drafting in the 20s range. One year left and then he can go wherever?

Yeah, I think you have to go 8/50. He's the real thing, clearly. And while he's lost a ton of heartbreaking games, he's got to be able to see that the team isn't half bad.


Well hopefully in another year or two. That's what you are selling. Because they are a bad team and unless changes are made will be bad again next year.
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Posted 11 April 2014 - 10:15 PM

giv e him lundqvists deal +$1 *holds ears jajajajajajhahahhahhah


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 10:17 PM

I wonder what kind of return we could get on him    A.  Over the summer   B.  Early Season next year   C. Trade Deadline

 

If he declines signing, then I wouldn't mind considering the following:

 

1.  Schneider / Larsson to EDM for Eberle/Klefbom or Taylor Hall

 

2.  Schneider / Zajac  to CAR for Ward  / Eric Staal

 

3.  Schneider / Larsson or Zajac to Toronto for Phil Kessel 

 

That's my two cents...


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 10:24 PM

the only positive thing about staying with the devils is that he is close to his family in boston.


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