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#21 Chuck the Duck

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Posted 15 April 2014 - 12:45 PM

I think a lot of his anamosity this season was due to some promise or assurances he received from Lou and/or PDB regarding playing time following the trade for Cory at the draft.  Just reading through some of his comments, he seems to intimate that he believed it would be, at the very worst for him, a true split of games between the 2 goalies throughout the season, and he wouldn't be put in a situation where he sat a stretch of 4 or 5 games in a row (especially ones that mattered towards the end of the season) in favor of Cory.


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Posted 15 April 2014 - 12:51 PM

I need to get to a Devils game at MSG next season, but man are tickets expensive for those.. Anyone who has gone recently, is it really worth it?

 

It's worth it when you win, absolutely. We had two absolutely amazing wins there this season; the one with Carter scoring a winner with 3 minutes left and the one with Gelinas' slapshot OT winner. I was at the first one and was lucky to get super nice box-ish "gallery" seats for $65 (got them the afternoon-of, plus it was a weekday game; best way to go). My girlfriend and I said "F*** it, let's splurge" because the Devils were in the middle of a long road stand so there were almost 2 weeks without a home game, or something like that.

 

Compared to the last time I was there, everyone at the Garden now is a big p***y, there's been a complete overhaul/change in clientele, there are no "hardcore Rangers fans" there. I saw the obvious suits, the well-to-do crowd, but moreso a ton of tourists, like it was a Broadway show. I wasn't heckled once, not before the game, not during, definitely not after. There was maybe one or two "Let's go Rangers!" chant all game and a good contingent of "Let's go Devils!" chants that broke out pretty loudly after our goals. By comparison, the Devils fans that were there were pretty loud. I imagine the type of Devils fan that wants to throw down $70+ to see a game at the Garden is probably pretty passionate; it's no college-night casual fan going out of their way to get there.

 

As the venue's concerned, the renovation hasn't been anything special. New materials, but mostly the same old design. The sight-lines weren't that great, especially considering I was sitting in what is usually a pretty expensive area. I'd pick seeing a game at The Rock over the Garden any day of the week. And that's my unbiased opinion as an architect/designer, not as a Devils fan. It can get claustrophobic during intermission.

 

But yeah, I would go back again. Especially if the Devils are on a roll at any point next season before playing there.

 

 

I wouldn't mind invading that sh!thole as an NJDevs group. We can get a bunch of seats together and marvel at the newly transformed Garden.  :P

 

As long as it's a weekday game, you can find tickets in the 60-80 range the day of if you're patient enough. We should all organize something.


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Posted 15 April 2014 - 01:01 PM

I think a lot of his anamosity this season was due to some promise or assurances he received from Lou and/or PDB regarding playing time following the trade for Cory at the draft.  Just reading through some of his comments, he seems to intimate that he believed it would be, at the very worst for him, a true split of games between the 2 goalies throughout the season, and he wouldn't be put in a situation where he sat a stretch of 4 or 5 games in a row (especially ones that mattered towards the end of the season) in favor of Cory.

 

With respect, this is the kind of post I have issues with. Everything you just wrote is either completely unfounded or just simply never happened.


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Posted 15 April 2014 - 01:23 PM

I wouldn't mind invading that sh!thole as an NJDevs group. We can get a bunch of seats together and marvel at the newly transformed Garden. :P

 

I'm in. Lets do it!


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Posted 15 April 2014 - 02:25 PM

Yeah you've convinced me, definitely going to a game next season.. I'll probably try to pick a midweek game and just take off work


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Posted 15 April 2014 - 02:27 PM

The last time I went to a game at MSG I just didn't enjoy it and have absolutely no motivation to waste any time there. It may make me a bad person but I just have nothing nice to say about that sh!thole.


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Posted 15 April 2014 - 04:01 PM

I think it's more because he's starting to see that he simply isn't what he was anymore, and there isn't a thing he can do about it. I don't think Lou would ever scold Marty, even if he didn't like some of Marty's quotes.

 

No but you rarely see Lou get defensive about anything publicly, he certainly got defensive about that comment when the media asked him about it.


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Posted 15 April 2014 - 04:38 PM

Yeah you've convinced me, definitely going to a game next season.. I'll probably try to pick a midweek game and just take off work

its nothing so special.. although they so have stands that sell shots that was cool
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Posted 15 April 2014 - 04:40 PM

I kind of want to see the Garden again post-renovation.  The last two times I was there wasn't so great, the Devils were shut out and there were all kinds of nonsensical Marty insults (this was during the Avery 'era') but I also was there in '06 Game 4 so there's that.


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Posted 15 April 2014 - 04:45 PM

I'm 3-1 at garden games, (New York devils fan) I typically don't go to them only because its somewhat hostile. No one is going to start sh!t with you but its not a fun place to be when everyone probably wishes they could shiv you.


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Posted 15 April 2014 - 05:48 PM

With respect, this is the kind of post I have issues with. Everything you just wrote is either completely unfounded or just simply never happened.


I never said it was based in fact but was simply my interpretation based upon Marty's statements both throughout the season and immediately after.
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Posted 15 April 2014 - 06:39 PM

I never said it was based in fact but was simply my interpretation based upon Marty's statements both throughout the season and immediately after.

 

And you would be correct

 

http://www.nj.com/de...ith_devils.html

 

"It's one thing when you get into a situation and they tell you exactly what is going to happen. I'm not saying I was promised anything but I definitely was not promised that, to sit back whenever games counted throughout the year."

 

"The situation I'm going to get myself in is something I'm going to be okay with. So if you see me here next year, it's because I'm okay to be sharing the net or doing whatever I'm told," Brodeur said. "But I'm not going to go through what I've done, thinking you're still No. 1 and the next thing you know (you're sitting).

 

 

But like CR and others have said Marty seems more at peace with things since then, maybe the final game was a bit of a catharsis for him.


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Posted 15 April 2014 - 06:46 PM

And you would be correct

 

http://www.nj.com/de...ith_devils.html

 

 

But like CR and others have said Marty seems more at peace with things since then, maybe the final game was a bit of a catharsis for him.

 

You can tell, more and more, as we have time to reflect, how difficult all of this was for him, and that he was having a hard time coming to grips with it all. It would probably would've been a little better/simpler if he hadn't worked through it all through the media (where his quotes were not only open to interpretation, but definitely had a way of coming off in a less-than-favorable light).  Seems like he's sorting through the tougher/rawer emotions though.  


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Posted 15 April 2014 - 06:55 PM

I've been to the garden post renovation and while it is nicer, it's still not Pru Center nice. Only so much you can do since they couldn't expand the footprint of the arena. Corridors are still cramped. Lines still long everywhere. Plus there are still some obstructed seats (some where you can't even see the scoreboard) Devils have more food options too

 

The arena just has no breathability. The Devils have large wide concourses, team murals, the columns with players on them. The arena is branded Devils...it just drips Devils red and black. The new MSG is oddly neutral.


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Posted 15 April 2014 - 07:05 PM

Went to MSG for a concert back in November.  Remember when Marty McFly goes back to 1985 at the end of Back to the Future, and the interior of his house is much fancier than it was before he went back in time, but it's still the same exact house on the outside?  That's how the "new" MSG is.  They've made it pretty nice within the confines of what they had to work with, but like '7' points out, there's only so much that could've been done with the concourse and the overall layout. 


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Posted 15 April 2014 - 07:06 PM

And you would be correct

 

http://www.nj.com/de...ith_devils.html

 

 

But like CR and others have said Marty seems more at peace with things since then, maybe the final game was a bit of a catharsis for him.

 

There are a million quotes that say a million different things. Saying Brodeur was upset is fine, I am arguing against the idea that Marty was promised something explicitly and that he was some vengeful freak this year.


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Posted 16 April 2014 - 01:23 PM

There are a million quotes that say a million different things. Saying Brodeur was upset is fine, I am arguing against the idea that Marty was promised something explicitly and that he was some vengeful freak this year.

I'm with Neb00rs here.  Marty is a quality character and was really sh!t on around here on the boards.  To attack his play is one thing, which was sub-par when compared to Schneids this year, but to attack his character and call him a 'cry-baby' or claim he has a poor attitude tells me that its very easy to take what Marty said out of context.  He legitimately loves the game of hockey and there is nothing wrong with that.  Especially in terms of, wanting to play as many games as possible.  And I'm glad to see that some of you are being put at ease with Marty's more recent comments.  Maybe I'm too easy-going and willing to give people the benefit of the doubt, but I really believe that Marty is not going to find a job, even as a backup elsewhere in the NHL, I dare anyone to convince me otherwise.  I also believe that Marty is man enough to come back here as a backup, swallow this pride that everyone talks about, and reach his NHL-record 700 wins (maybe more), and then retire as a New Jersey Devil for life.  Who knows? You never know when someone can get hurt and that's why its good to have a reliable backup and Marty can be that as long as his role is clearly defined and he can live with that. *knock on wood*  Marty re-signs here and gets maybe 15-20 games


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