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#41 MadDog2020

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 06:40 AM

Almo & Gomez were probably the best 2nd line in the NHL, to go along w/ the A Line which was the best 1st line for a while, still have no idea how we lost in 2001, was the best Devils team i have seen.

Agreed. I'll take 2001 to my grave. I still can't watch game 7 when they replay it on NHL Network. Game 6 is the worst game I've ever attended in person in my life. I felt physically ill leaving the building that night.


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Posted 22 April 2014 - 08:47 AM

Agreed. I'll take 2001 to my grave. I still can't watch game 7 when they replay it on NHL Network. Game 6 is the worst game I've ever attended in person in my life. I felt physically ill leaving the building that night.

 

Out of all the big playoff failures the Devils have endured (94, 2001, 2009, 2012), Games 6 and 7 still hurt the most.  For me personally, that loss to Colorado hurts more than losing to the Rags in 94.  I too as at Game 6 in 2001 and I remember walking out knowing that the Devils were not going to win game 7.  No way in hell.  I have never seen a team within 1 win of the cup play with so little fire and passion in my entire life and it happened for 2 games in a row.  It almost seemed as though they walked into game 6 assuming they were just going to win it and not put any emotion or will into it.  I remember hearing stories about the limo's being parked outside of CAA before that game and they were preparing the locker room for the celebration even before the game started.  If that's true then the Devils really got caught up in the old saying of counting their chickens before they hatched.  That was also the year Marty struggled and it showed immensely in those 2 games.  2 of the goals in game 7 were complete garbage.

 

Also to anyone who still wishes that Gary Thorne to come back and be the PbP announcer for the Devils, just re-watch the entire SCF series in 2001.  His complete ass-kissing of the Avs is beyond epic and still makes my blood boil to this day.


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Posted 22 April 2014 - 09:15 AM

DM84, a lot of that ass-kissing had to do with Ray Bourque I think.  Seemed like everyone who wasn't a Devils fan wanted the Avs to win the Cup based on that, more than anything else.  And even though the Devils had scored 295 goals that season to lead the league, and had been good offensively prior, they were still seen by so many as this low-scoring, boring trap team that clutched and grabbed and could only win games 2-1...they were the bad guys.

 

Anyway, not to get into the Rangers-Devils series, but what made that series so hard to take was how GOOD the Devils looked against the Canadiens.  They were scoring like crazy, after getting a nice boost in the regular season from the Gilmour deal (I remember John Davidson was doing an interview on the WFAN, then said "Oh BTW, the Devils just got Doug Gilmour..."  I was beyond thrilled).  It was just such a contrast, from looking so good offensively to suddenly having so much trouble putting the puck in the net...and of course, all of the disallowed goals... 

 

I know the Canadiens weren't very good in '97, but the Devils really were fun to watch in that series.  Brodeur's goal made it even more so.


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Posted 22 April 2014 - 09:20 AM

DM84, a lot of that ass-kissing had to do with Ray Bourque I think.  Seemed like everyone who wasn't a Devils fan wanted the Avs to win the Cup based on that, more than anything else.  And even though the Devils had scored 295 goals that season to lead the league, and had been good offensively prior, they were still seen by so many as this low-scoring, boring trap team that clutched and grabbed and could only win games 2-1...they were the bad guys.

 

Anyway, not to get into the Rangers-Devils series, but what made that series so hard to take was how GOOD the Devils looked against the Canadiens.  They were scoring like crazy, after getting a nice boost in the regular season from the Gilmour deal (I remember John Davidson was doing an interview on the WFAN, then said "Oh BTW, the Devils just got Doug Gilmour..."  I was beyond thrilled).  It was just such a contrast, from looking so good offensively to suddenly having so much trouble putting the puck in the net...and of course, all of the disallowed goals... 

 

I know the Canadiens weren't very good in '97, but the Devils really were fun to watch in that series.  Brodeur's goal made it even more so.

 

There was Ray Pork (I never liked him), but Thorne went above and beyond even with the rest of the team, especially with Sakic and Roy.  I know they were the President's cup winning team that year, but it was so out of control from Gary that I was worried if Sakic ever came to a sudden stop that Thorne's head would be halfway up his ass.  Also, maybe I am reading too much into this, but also listen to that call of the goal from Friesen in game 7 in 2003 against Ottawa.  I have never heard a supposed neutral announcer wanting a goal to not count as much as him on that call.


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Posted 22 April 2014 - 09:36 AM

There was Ray Pork (I never liked him), but Thorne went above and beyond even with the rest of the team, especially with Sakic and Roy.  I know they were the President's cup winning team that year, but it was so out of control from Gary that I was worried if Sakic ever came to a sudden stop that Thorne's head would be halfway up his ass.  Also, maybe I am reading too much into this, but also listen to that call of the goal from Friesen in game 7 in 2003 against Ottawa.  I have never heard a supposed neutral announcer wanting a goal to not count as much as him on that call.

 

I don't think Thorne hated the Devils (maybe he did, but I wouldn't say from the job he did on air).

 

The goal of ABC was to heavily promote the Avalanche and their players. He followed along with that. 

 

As for the goal call in 2003...that's an all-time screw up by him, but just nothing more than an embarrassing error in a huge spot.


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Posted 22 April 2014 - 09:40 AM

Thorne was fired by the Devils (I think), so I always wondered if he harbored resentment towards the franchise because of that.


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Posted 22 April 2014 - 09:43 AM

Out of all the big playoff failures the Devils have endured (94, 2001, 2009, 2012), Games 6 and 7 still hurt the most. For me personally, that loss to Colorado hurts more than losing to the Rags in 94. I too as at Game 6 in 2001 and I remember walking out knowing that the Devils were not going to win game 7. No way in hell. I have never seen a team within 1 win of the cup play with so little fire and passion in my entire life and it happened for 2 games in a row. It almost seemed as though they walked into game 6 assuming they were just going to win it and not put any emotion or will into it. I remember hearing stories about the limo's being parked outside of CAA before that game and they were preparing the locker room for the celebration even before the game started. If that's true then the Devils really got caught up in the old saying of counting their chickens before they hatched. That was also the year Marty struggled and it showed immensely in those 2 games. 2 of the goals in game 7 were complete garbage.

Also to anyone who still wishes that Gary Thorne to come back and be the PbP announcer for the Devils, just re-watch the entire SCF series in 2001. His complete ass-kissing of the Avs is beyond epic and still makes my blood boil to this day.

'94 used to be worse for me, but 2012 made up for 'unfinished business' when it comes to the d-bags across the river. 2001 will haunt me forever. I absolutely hate the fact that that team thought they had it in the bag and quit after the Gomez goal was waved off. Larry needed to pull another trash can tantrum that night. I've never been more furious with a Devils team than I was that year. Colorado didn't win that series- we lost it. Period.


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Posted 22 April 2014 - 09:45 AM

I don't think Thorne hated the Devils (maybe he did, but I wouldn't say from the job he did on air).

 

The goal of ABC was to heavily promote the Avalanche and their players. He followed along with that. 

 

As for the goal call in 2003...that's an all-time screw up by him, but just nothing more than an embarrassing error in a huge spot.

 

Outside of Ray Pork on the verge of retiring and it being his last shot, what other reasons would ABC want Colorado over the Devils?  Because they were the sexier choice?

 

As for that 2003 call, the correct thing would be for him was to shut up and not say anything for 1-2 seconds before making the call.  He said for a good 5 seconds that it was not a goal.  What was he basing it on?  The friggin goal light not coming on.

 

He really did not want that to be a goal.


'94 used to be worse for me, but 2012 made up for 'unfinished business' when it comes to the d-bags across the river. 2001 will haunt me forever. I absolutely hate the fact that that team thought they had it in the bag and quit after the Gomez goal was waved off. Larry needed to pull another trash can tantrum that night. I've never been more furious with a Devils team than I was that year. Colorado didn't win that series- we lost it. Period.

 

100% agree.  Devils getting cocky plus Marty sh!tting the bed (again he had an off-year that entire season) contributed to that mess.  I remember the look of shock the Devils had after game 7 was over and the Avs players were celebrating.  They really thought they would just coast to the cup that year.


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Posted 22 April 2014 - 10:13 AM

Outside of Ray Pork on the verge of retiring and it being his last shot, what other reasons would ABC want Colorado over the Devils? Because they were the sexier choice?

As for that 2003 call, the correct thing would be for him was to shut up and not say anything for 1-2 seconds before making the call. He said for a good 5 seconds that it was not a goal. What was he basing it on? The friggin goal light not coming on.

He really did not want that to be a goal.


100% agree. Devils getting cocky plus Marty sh!tting the bed (again he had an off-year that entire season) contributed to that mess. I remember the look of shock the Devils had after game 7 was over and the Avs players were celebrating. They really thought they would just coast to the cup that year.

I put that on the leadership of the team. A team with as much veteran experience as that one that had a core that had won two Cups should've known better than to think they'd be coasting to anything. But that team had issues all playoffs (except the ECF)- they fvcked around with Carolina and Toronto and almost got burned twice. I think that Pittsburgh series gave them a false sense of security. Game 1 against Colorado should've been the final fvcking wake-up call.


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Posted 22 April 2014 - 10:16 AM

94 will probably always hurt me more as it was the Rags, but in 2001 I reallythought we were the best team, and felt like MArty let us down, I expected such a huge series from him and he was not up to the task.

And it did seem like NJ layed for the Avs the last 2 games... so frustrating...
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Posted 22 April 2014 - 10:59 AM

Leaving the Brendan Byrne Arena in 1994 after we lost game 6 was the worst feeling I've ever had leaving a sporting event.  We choked away that game, plain and simple.

 

Leaving game 6 in 2001 was almost as bad, but we were coming off a Stanley Cup the season before so, for me, it didn't have the same feeling.  I actually watched Game 7 from a small TV at il Vagabundo in NYC (great restaurant by the way - with a bocce court in the middle of it).  A bunch of people were crowded around watching the game and, after the final horn sounded, the woman standing next to me said "I'm glad Ray Bourque finally won a cup" to which I replied "I hope he chokes on that fvcking cup."  Every time my friends and I go back there for dinner, that line inevitably gets thrown around more often than a baseball.  


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Posted 22 April 2014 - 11:02 AM

I have to say 2009 has pretty much surpassed 1994 now as 2012 helped remedy it a bit. At least we got adequate revenge on the Rags, but the Hurricanes have pulled too much miracle sh!t on us over the years (game 2 2006, 2002, and then 09) You can't allow 2 goals at home in the waning seconds of a game 7. That was unforgivable.

 

It's interesting watching highlights of 2001, Roy was so absurdly padded up that he rarely moves on some of his save attempts. Just glides a bit to the right...a bit to the left

 

Still can't believe the weaksauce BS goals Marty allowed in game 6. Foote and Drury. Those were atrocious goals.


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Posted 22 April 2014 - 11:07 AM

I always wonder what would've happened if that Gomez goal counted. They seemed to quit after that, and I will NEVER understand why. Its the thing that bugs me more than anything else about that series.


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Posted 22 April 2014 - 01:23 PM

Also, maybe I am reading too much into this, but also listen to that call of the goal from Friesen in game 7 in 2003 against Ottawa.  I have never heard a supposed neutral announcer wanting a goal to not count as much as him on that call.

 

I'll never forget that!!!! He was so excited to incorrectly announce the goal not counting.


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Posted 22 April 2014 - 01:29 PM

I'll never forget that!!!! He was so excited to incorrectly announce the goal not counting.

 

NO!!! NO GOAL!! THE GOAL LIGHT DID NOT GO ON!!

 

 

 

fvck you Gary Thorne


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Posted 22 April 2014 - 01:35 PM

NO!!! NO GOAL!! THE GOAL LIGHT DID NOT GO ON!!



fvck you Gary Thorne

I'd love to ask him what he was thinking on that. So what, the light didn't go on? The puck went in the net clearly and the only signal the ref made was for a goal. I don't know why the light never came on either, unless the goal judge was too busy punching something lmao.


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Posted 22 April 2014 - 01:36 PM

I'll never forget that!!!! He was so excited to incorrectly announce the goal not counting.

 

Like I said earlier, he just really fvcked it up. No one in that big of a spot, no matter the grudge or dislike, is going to purposely hate on one team.

 

He correctly called it a goal but for whatever reason, goal light not going on or something else, quickly thought he made a mistake. At that point, it's the announcers job to make it very clear that it's not a goal. Only problem was that he was right the 1st time and wrong with his loud correction.

 

Thorne is pretty lucky that was before the Internet, Twitter, Deadspin day. A mistake like that today in such a big spot, and he would never live that one down. In the end, probably something only a few thousand Devils fans remember.


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Posted 22 April 2014 - 01:46 PM

Like I said earlier, he just really fvcked it up. No one in that big of a spot, no matter the grudge or dislike, is going to purposely hate on one team.

 

He correctly called it a goal but for whatever reason, goal light not going on or something else, quickly thought he made a mistake. At that point, it's the announcers job to make it very clear that it's not a goal. Only problem was that he was right the 1st time and wrong with his loud correction.

 

Thorne is pretty lucky that was before the Internet, Twitter, Deadspin day. A mistake like that today in such a big spot, and he would never live that one down. In the end, probably something only a few thousand Devils fans remember.

 

I know you are trying to be diplomatic and giving Gary the benefit of a doubt, but I am not pulling my observations out of my ass either.  Gary always seems to have something against the Devils when he calls their games.  I am coming to this conclusion after hearing his announcing of the 2001 ECF against the Pens when he couldn't stop kissing Lemiuex's ass, after the 2001 SCF where he couldn't stop kissing Sakic's, Roy's and Ray Pork's ass, in 2003 against the Sens with that call and then later in the finals when he wanted the Ducks to win it all and gushing all over about Giguere.

 

When he called Devils games, I swear you would think he was a paid shill for the other team.


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Posted 22 April 2014 - 01:48 PM

I'd love to ask him what he was thinking on that. So what, the light didn't go on? The puck went in the net clearly and the only signal the ref made was for a goal. I don't know why the light never came on either, unless the goal judge was too busy punching something lmao.

 

Doc would have pointed everything out and covered his bases before announcing a correction.  He almost never announces goals, especially big goals like that, willy-nilly.

 

Gary just really really wanted that goal to not count.  He called the mistaken no goal LOUDER than the actual goal itself.  That speaks for itself.


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Posted 22 April 2014 - 01:54 PM

I know you are trying to be diplomatic and giving Gary the benefit of a doubt, but I am not pulling my observations out of my ass either.  Gary always seems to have something against the Devils when he calls their games.  I am coming to this conclusion after hearing his announcing of the 2001 ECF against the Pens when he couldn't stop kissing Lemiuex's ass, after the 2001 SCF where he couldn't stop kissing Sakic's, Roy's and Ray Pork's ass, in 2003 against the Sens with that call and then later in the finals when he wanted the Ducks to win it all and gushing all over about Giguere.

 

When he called Devils games, I swear you would think he was a paid shill for the other team.

 

Mind you, I'm not a fan of Gary Thorne but he sure didn't sound like a shill for the opposition when he made this call...

 

 


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