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#61 Triumph

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 01:55 PM

Like I said earlier, he just really fvcked it up. No one in that big of a spot, no matter the grudge or dislike, is going to purposely hate on one team.

 

He correctly called it a goal but for whatever reason, goal light not going on or something else, quickly thought he made a mistake. At that point, it's the announcers job to make it very clear that it's not a goal. Only problem was that he was right the 1st time and wrong with his loud correction.

 

Thorne is pretty lucky that was before the Internet, Twitter, Deadspin day. A mistake like that today in such a big spot, and he would never live that one down. In the end, probably something only a few thousand Devils fans remember.

 

Yeah, pretty much, and you also have to remember that Thorne comes from a time when the goal light not being on really meant something.  Now no one cares about the goal light because of replay and the fact that the goal judges have been moved away from the back of the net.  Used to be if the goal light wasn't on, it wasn't a goal.


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Posted 22 April 2014 - 02:25 PM

I have to say 2009 has pretty much surpassed 1994 now as 2012 helped remedy it a bit. At least we got adequate revenge on the Rags, but the Hurricanes have pulled too much miracle sh!t on us over the years (game 2 2006, 2002, and then 09) You can't allow 2 goals at home in the waning seconds of a game 7. That was unforgivable.

I had wiped that game from my mind until I read your post, that is certainly an awful awful result, carolina was skarting around like maniacs and the Devs just seemed to be traffic cones in the waning minutes of that game....
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Posted 22 April 2014 - 02:28 PM

Mind you, I'm not a fan of Gary Thorne but he sure didn't sound like a shill for the opposition when he made this call...

 

 

 

That was of course before he was subsequently fired by the Devils, or rather replaced by Doc.  Granted if you're going to be replaced by Doc that's not exactly an insult but still.

 

I don't know if he had a personal bias in his calls, but ESPN sure had a station bias against us because we wore our 'no stars, no attention' like a badge of honor, which doesn't cowtow to the networks.  Neither did our local market for that matter.  But I'd seriously rather listen to Sam and JD call a Devils game than pretty much any of the main ESPN crews back in the day, JD in particular always had a lot of respect for the Devils.


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Posted 22 April 2014 - 02:29 PM

I had wiped that game from my mind until I read your post, that is certainly an awful awful result, carolina was skarting around like maniacs and the Devs just seemed to be traffic cones in the waning minutes of that game....

Ugh... 1A in terms of worst game I've ever attended after 01 game 6.


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Posted 22 April 2014 - 02:29 PM

Mind you, I'm not a fan of Gary Thorne but he sure didn't sound like a shill for the opposition when he made this call...

 

 

 

That video was from a time when he was a paid employee of the Devils.  Of course he wouldn't speak out against them.

 

His true colors showed in the late 90's and early 2000's.


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Posted 23 April 2014 - 03:23 PM

This thread got depressing fast. 

 

I have a pretty different outlook. While I sometimes wonder about players that have come and gone, I really don't dwell on any losses with the Devils. 2001 Game 7. Never think about it. 2009 Game 7, Was a tough day, but moved on and don't look back (unless I do a DEVILS PLAYOFF FLASHBACK!)

 

There has been so much good that has come with being a Devils fan that I don't have to think about many "what ifs". Like someone said in another thread, the Devils have made the Finals more times than they've missed the playoffs in the last 20 years. Too many great moments.

 

People talk about some losses like the Devils are Sens fans not letting go of Game 7 in 2003. They got nothing else.


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Posted 23 April 2014 - 03:52 PM

This thread got depressing fast.

I have a pretty different outlook. While I sometimes wonder about players that have come and gone, I really don't dwell on any losses with the Devils. 2001 Game 7. Never think about it. 2009 Game 7, Was a tough day, but moved on and don't look back (unless I do a DEVILS PLAYOFF FLASHBACK!)

There has been so much good that has come with being a Devils fan that I don't have to think about many "what ifs". Like someone said in another thread, the Devils have made the Finals more times than they've missed the playoffs in the last 20 years. Too many great moments.

People talk about some losses like the Devils are Sens fans not letting go of Game 7 in 2003.

See, the reason 2001 stings so much is because you don't get many shots to go back-to-back- that would've been something VERY special for the franchise to achieve, and it would've stamped the Devils as a true dynasty. And to illustrate just how hard it is to win back-to-back Cups, still no one has done it since the '97-'98 Red Wings.


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Posted 23 April 2014 - 04:19 PM

See, the reason 2001 stings so much is because you don't get many shots to go back-to-back- that would've been something VERY special for the franchise to achieve, and it would've stamped the Devils as a true dynasty. And to illustrate just how hard it is to win back-to-back Cups, still no one has done it since the '97-'98 Red Wings.


I really do hate playing the "what if" game because who knows if NJ would've dealt Sykora and Arnott if we won in 01. Maybe Lou gives them a mulligan in 02 and we don't get Langenbrunner and other key guys
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Posted 23 April 2014 - 05:35 PM

Yeah, I don't really get upset by 2001 - the Avs were without Forsberg and beat us.  The Devils didn't really face anyone fearsome up to that point.  Brodeur had played 192 games in two years for some reason.  Sometimes you don't get the breaks.


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Posted 23 April 2014 - 11:46 PM

That video was from a time when he was a paid employee of the Devils.  Of course he wouldn't speak out against them.
 
His true colors showed in the late 90's and early 2000's.


The 2003 ECF call was horrible, but it was a mistake. You guys are reading too much into it. I remember him being very complementary of the organization and players such as Stevens, Nieds, and Brodeur during those same broadcasts. He did his bidding for ESPN/ABC and pumped up their BS story lines, which was his job. I don't think he had some personal vendetta against the team.

BTW, he was the only announcer that I can recall who ever described the feeling of the upper deck swaying at the CAA when he called Game 7 in 2003.
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Posted 24 April 2014 - 08:23 AM

Yeah, I don't really get upset by 2001 - the Avs were without Forsberg and beat us.  The Devils didn't really face anyone fearsome up to that point.  Brodeur had played 192 games in two years for some reason.  Sometimes you don't get the breaks.

 

Pittsburgh was the odd team in that run...I don't know what happened with them, but they didn't even seem like they wanted to compete against the Devils.  Shut out back-to-back in their own building. 

 

After the first three games against the 'Canes, where the Devils outscored them 11-1 (which meant the Devils had won an absurd 22 out of 24 games), they seemed to lose something.  In eventually closing out the series against the 'Canes and having to fight to beat the Leafs in seven, through the second game of the Penguins series, the Devils went 6-6 and were looking very up-and-down (part of this was sudden offensive inconsistency, and Marty was up-and-down throughout the entire playoffs).  Then suddenly, they reeled off three straight against the Pens in seemingly dominating fashion, but like I said, that team just seemed disinterested (Carolina at least seemed like they were trying, even though they were clearly the inferior team). 

 

After Game 5 in the SCF, it felt like Colorado just said "The Devils aren't really playing their best and somehow they're up 3-2, what are we doing here, let's quit fvcking around!" and took charge.  Marty's game being a mess at that point (he was awful in those finals...not killing him for it, sh!t happens, he was awesome in the three Cup-winning runs) made it that much easier for them to do it. 


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 08:32 AM

Pittsburgh was the odd team in that run...I don't know what happened with them, but they didn't even seem like they wanted to compete against the Devils.  Shut out back-to-back in their own building. 

 

After the first three games against the 'Canes, where the Devils outscored them 11-1 (which meant the Devils had won an absurd 22 out of 24 games), they seemed to lose something.  In eventually closing out the series against the 'Canes and having to fight to beat the Leafs in seven, through the second game of the Penguins series, the Devils went 6-6 and were looking very up-and-down (part of this was sudden offensive inconsistency, and Marty was up-and-down throughout the entire playoffs).  Then suddenly, they reeled off three straight against the Pens in seemingly dominating fashion, but like I said, that team just seemed disinterested (Carolina at least seemed like they were trying, even though they were clearly the inferior team). 

 

After Game 5 in the SCF, it felt like Colorado just said "The Devils aren't really playing their best and somehow they're up 3-2, what are we doing here, let's quit fvcking around!" and took charge.  Marty's game being a mess at that point (he was awful in those finals...not killing him for it, sh!t happens, he was awesome in the three Cup-winning runs) made it that much easier for them to do it. 

 

Add in there that Mogilny decided to disappear completely from about halfway through the Leafs series on to the end of the playoffs.


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 10:40 AM

Pittsburgh was the odd team in that run...I don't know what happened with them, but they didn't even seem like they wanted to compete against the Devils.  Shut out back-to-back in their own building. 

 

After the first three games against the 'Canes, where the Devils outscored them 11-1 (which meant the Devils had won an absurd 22 out of 24 games), they seemed to lose something.  In eventually closing out the series against the 'Canes and having to fight to beat the Leafs in seven, through the second game of the Penguins series, the Devils went 6-6 and were looking very up-and-down (part of this was sudden offensive inconsistency, and Marty was up-and-down throughout the entire playoffs).  Then suddenly, they reeled off three straight against the Pens in seemingly dominating fashion, but like I said, that team just seemed disinterested (Carolina at least seemed like they were trying, even though they were clearly the inferior team). 

 

After Game 5 in the SCF, it felt like Colorado just said "The Devils aren't really playing their best and somehow they're up 3-2, what are we doing here, let's quit fvcking around!" and took charge.  Marty's game being a mess at that point (he was awful in those finals...not killing him for it, sh!t happens, he was awesome in the three Cup-winning runs) made it that much easier for them to do it. 

 

Devils outshot Pittsburgh in every game that series, even though they led handily in 3 of them.  They were just awful on defense and I imagine the Devils more than any team could exploit that.


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