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#41 Chuck the Duck

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 12:52 PM

Maybe I am wrong but doesn't Moulson excel only when he has a top-flight center with him?  While Zajac is very good I do not think he would get the same production out of him as he did with Tavares.

 

+1.  I just have a feeling that Vrbata will be our biggest pickup this offseason.  I like Stastny, but I don't see him landing here.


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 12:57 PM

Vrbata is not a panacea.  He's a smarter Clarkson.  Shoots from everywhere type.  Sure, if he goes off he can score you 30, but if he has a bad year he can score 15 and look just like Michael Ryder doing it.


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 12:58 PM

I wonder if Kane (Evander) can't be had* from Winnipeg for Gelinas + Boucher/Matteau. 

 

* remember this is the GM who thinks Pavelec is a good goalie


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 01:02 PM

Moulson had 11 goals (29 points) in 44 games this year with Buffalo. Not great, but not terrible considering Buffalo's offence was worse than ours. Not sure who was centering him, but you can do worse than Zajac and Jagr. A goal scorer might actually make them even better.

 

I haven't seen Vrbata play much. His numbers are good, but as others point out that doesn't always tell the whole story.


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 01:04 PM

I wonder if Kane (Evander) can't be had* from Winnipeg for Gelinas + Boucher/Matteau. 

 

* remember this is the GM who thinks Pavelec is a good goalie

 

Winnipeg has plenty of defense.  They're moving Byfuglien to forward because they think they have so much D.  I don't see it.


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 01:05 PM

Moulson had 11 goals (29 points) in 44 games this year with Buffalo. Not great, but not terrible considering Buffalo's offence was worse than ours. Not sure who was centering him, but you can do worse than Zajac and Jagr. A goal scorer might actually make them even better.

 

I haven't seen Vrbata play much. His numbers are good, but as others point out that doesn't always tell the whole story.

 

He had 23g/28a in 75 games. Why exclude them?


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 03:26 PM

No interest in Gionta, I want to get younger not older....

I wonder if Kane (Evander) can't be had* from Winnipeg for Gelinas + Boucher/Matteau. 
 
* remember this is the GM who thinks Pavelec is a good goalie


I think I heard Kane might be released if they cannot trade him, attitude issues are the rumor??

I love Kane and would be excited to get him hear...
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Posted 24 April 2014 - 03:36 PM

No interest in Gionta, I want to get younger not older....

I think I heard Kane might be released if they cannot trade him, attitude issues are the rumor??

I love Kane and would be excited to get him hear...

 

yeah its been talked about a lot here. I'd love him here if he can behave


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 06:02 PM

No interest in Gionta, I want to get younger not older....

I think I heard Kane might be released if they cannot trade him, attitude issues are the rumor??

I love Kane and would be excited to get him hear...

A player of Kane's level won't be released.

The CBA doesn't allow releases like in football. He'd have to be bought out.

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 06:32 PM

Moulson is going to get overpaid. He's essentially a Ryder with some better play off the puck and better skating. But his shot isn't as good.

I don't see him as a great fit here or for value.
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Posted 24 April 2014 - 06:43 PM

Moulson is going to get overpaid. He's essentially a Ryder with some better play off the puck and better skating. But his shot isn't as good.

I don't see him as a great fit here or for value.

Yeah I'd be wary of him to be honest. What has he done without being JT's winger
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Posted 24 April 2014 - 09:52 PM

Yeah I'd be wary of him to be honest. What has he done without being JT's winger

 

He's been a scorer at every level of hockey he's ever played at. He was a key piece of the Cornell Big Red's ECAC championships both in 2003 and 2005. When he got called up for his cups of coffee in LA he was scoring around a point a game in the AHL. Then he came to the Islanders and had 3 straight 30+ goal seasons. Even with a guy like Tavares, you can't be a stiff. He came in and put up 30 goals his very first full season and followed it up with no sophomore slump, just two more straight seasons of 30+ goals. Tell me, who on the Islanders scored 30 goals this season? No one. If it was all about playing with Tavares, some other stiff would've taken his place and become an instant 30 goal scorer.


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 10:05 PM

He's been a scorer at every level of hockey he's ever played at. He was a key piece of the Cornell Big Red's ECAC championships both in 2003 and 2005. When he got called up for his cups of coffee in LA he was scoring around a point a game in the AHL. Then he came to the Islanders and had 3 straight 30+ goal seasons. Even with a guy like Tavares, you can't be a stiff. He came in and put up 30 goals his very first full season and followed it up with no sophomore slump, just two more straight seasons of 30+ goals. Tell me, who on the Islanders scored 30 goals this season? No one. If it was all about playing with Tavares, some other stiff would've taken his place and become an instant 30 goal scorer.


This is very fair. And I would not compare him to Ryder. If Ryder doesn't score, he is a negative to your team. He has no speed, can't play decent defense, kills a breakout. He has his shot. That's it and it better go in or else.

Moulson can score sure, but if he's not, he has speed, can get in on the forecheck, PK, and disrupt the opponents with his speed.

I think he's gonna get a 5/30 deal and I don't love that at all but I don think he's a stiff
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Posted 24 April 2014 - 10:08 PM

He's been a scorer at every level of hockey he's ever played at. He was a key piece of the Cornell Big Red's ECAC championships both in 2003 and 2005. When he got called up for his cups of coffee in LA he was scoring around a point a game in the AHL. Then he came to the Islanders and had 3 straight 30+ goal seasons. Even with a guy like Tavares, you can't be a stiff. He came in and put up 30 goals his very first full season and followed it up with no sophomore slump, just two more straight seasons of 30+ goals. Tell me, who on the Islanders scored 30 goals this season? No one. If it was all about playing with Tavares, some other stiff would've taken his place and become an instant 30 goal scorer.

 

He needs someone to get him the puck, and the Devils don't really have that.  We've been through this with Ryder, they don't need another player like this, unless they can get the right guys to surround him.  He scores but does not do much else and I don't expect him to be a 30 goal scorer going forward unless he ends up in the right situation.

 

Thomas Vanek scored 17 goals in 47 games for the Islanders, which is a 29.6 goal pace, and Okposo was on a 30 goal pace as well but got hurt.

 

sundstrom:  Moulson is not fast, he's not a forechecker.


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 10:19 PM

He needs someone to get him the puck, and the Devils don't really have that.  We've been through this with Ryder, they don't need another player like this, unless they can get the right guys to surround him.  He scores but does not do much else and I don't expect him to be a 30 goal scorer going forward unless he ends up in the right situation.

 

Thomas Vanek scored 17 goals in 47 games for the Islanders, which is a 29.6 goal pace, and Okposo was on a 30 goal pace as well but got hurt.

 

sundstrom:  Moulson is not fast, he's not a forechecker.

 

Vanek is Vanek. He's not exactly a stiff. Okposo is definitely a better example. Nobody's going to say Vanek is only scoring because of Tavares. Okposo on the other hand could very well be reaping that benefit, although he's always been a player who has been verging on a breakout but falls just short. Maybe he's finally hitting that power-forward stride that always takes that extra couple of years.


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