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#421 DJ Eco

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 12:42 PM

The thing about the cap overages is that let's say NJ is working with a 68 million cap, well they get the same bonus cushion, and Zidlicky and Jagr are already signed up with bonuses.  So they can just repeat this next year.

 

When you say "repeat this next year", you mean last year's bonuses do impact our 2014-2015 cap, but our 2014-2015 bonuses can shift to 2015-2016 cap, so we're kinda status quo?


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 12:45 PM

I'm hoping Clowe has an injury free season and shows what an asset he is

look at players that had concussions lately, like Crosby...it looked like one more hit and he was done a few seasons ago, but last season he was good to go

theres another player or two that looked like it was over for them and they bounced back...thats what I'm hoping for

 

Yup, when he got into the swing of things last year, his value was there. Great player, I can see why Sharks fans loved him. Hope he can bounce back with an injury-free season. Would love to see how Clowe leads this team in a playoff run scenario.


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 12:59 PM

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 01:57 PM

http://www.nhl.com/i...id=nhl:topheads

COL is taking ROR to arbitration.  Interesting development.  I could see them losing ROR or Stasny here this offseason. 


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 03:10 PM

 

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COL gave pending UFA C Paul Stastny multi-year contract offer couple of weeks ago. No dialogue since but it's expected to get going soon.


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 03:12 PM

http://www.nhl.com/i...id=nhl:topheads

COL is taking ROR to arbitration.  Interesting development.  I could see them losing ROR or Stasny here this offseason. 

 

If they get Stastny resigned, I'd probably look to trade ROR since he probably won't sign there after going to arbitration and them dicking him around a couple years ago


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 03:14 PM

Lots of high quality centers apparently on the move this offseason.

 

Kesler, Spezza, Stastny, potentially RoR .. would love to see the Devils get in on the action.

 

Zajac would be a PERFECT 2C.  Devils would be dynamite with a offensively creative 1C.


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 03:18 PM

O'Reilly would be an amazing get... It would also take a miracle.
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Posted 16 June 2014 - 03:27 PM

I don't see us trading for these guys without mortgaging our future.  I can be patient and would rather us look inside the system.  The 2012 team was built like that.  A good number of homegrown players mixed with a few solid trades here or there to solidify us.  You never know what young players will do when they show up to camp in the fall. 

Homegrown: Parise, Clarkson, Zajac, Henrique, Fayne, Greener, Larsson, Elias, Brodeur, guess you could throw Gionta, and Josefson in there too. 

Solid trade/waiver acqs:  Kovy, Poni, Harrold, Carter, Zids, Sykie, traded guys from further back would be guys like Zubrus, Salvador.



EDIT: Didn't Parise goto club arbitration in his last RFA year?


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 03:28 PM

Larsson/Gelinas and some pieces for ROR and some pieces?


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 03:37 PM

Larsson/Gelinas and some pieces for ROR and some pieces?

Hmm, I'd give up Gelly and a 2nd rounder for him.  Probably not enough.


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 03:37 PM

I don't see us trading for these guys without mortgaging our future.  I can be patient and would rather us look inside the system.  The 2012 team was built like that.  A good number of homegrown players mixed with a few solid trades here or there to solidify us.  You never know what young players will do when they show up to camp in the fall. 

Homegrown: Parise, Clarkson, Zajac, Henrique, Fayne, Greener, Larsson, Elias, Brodeur, guess you could throw Gionta, and Josefson in there too. 

Solid trade/waiver acqs:  Kovy, Poni, Harrold, Carter, Zids, Sykie, traded guys from further back would be guys like Zubrus, Salvador.



EDIT: Didn't Parise goto club arbitration in his last RFA year?

 

One of the many reasons the Devils won't trade for those players is because they don't have the assets to do it.  Vancouver and Ottawa want something like a first round pick, a prospect and a good young player.  Translated into a hypothetical, that would mean, for example, from the Flyers: Courturier, the Flyers first round pick this year and someone decent in their system.  The Devils do not have a first round pick to trade this year, will not want to give up their first next year, and would not want to trade someone like Henrique for expensive players that are clearly on the decline.  My prediction is that Anaheim will trade for one of Spezza or Kessler, and most likely Spezza.  They have a ton of cap space, two first round picks this year and a lot of young pretty good forwards that are expendable (Emerson Etem, Kyle Palmieri come to mind). 


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 03:41 PM

One of the many reasons the Devils won't trade for those players is because they don't have the assets to do it.  Vancouver and Ottawa want something like a first round pick, a prospect and a good young player.  Translated into a hypothetical, that would mean, for example, from the Flyers: Courturier, the Flyers first round pick this year and someone decent in their system.  The Devils do not have a first round pick to trade this year, will not want to give up their first next year, and would not want to trade someone like Henrique for expensive players that are clearly on the decline.  My prediction is that Anaheim will trade for one of Spezza or Kessler, and most likely Spezza.  They have a ton of cap space, two first round picks this year and a lot of young pretty good forwards that are expendable (Emerson Etem, Kyle Palmieri come to mind). 

 

Just because a team wants that doesn't mean they'll get it. There is no chance anyone gets close to that Flyers deal you hypothesized. 


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 03:47 PM

Just because a team wants that doesn't mean they'll get it. There is no chance anyone gets close to that Flyers deal you hypothesized. 

 

Kessler I bet could land that.  Spezza probably less, but it would still involve at least a first round pick going the other way. 


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 04:42 PM

O'Reilly would be an amazing get... It would also take a miracle.


It would cost Larsson and we'd have to dump some salary.
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Posted 16 June 2014 - 06:09 PM

Kessler I bet could land that.  Spezza probably less, but it would still involve at least a first round pick going the other way. 

 

The Flyers are nuts if they send Couturier for Kesler straight up.


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 06:23 PM

The Flyers are nuts if they send Couturier for Kesler straight up.

 

Yup, I was thinking that. I mean, could I see Homgren do that desperately, sure. But Hextall has to be a lot smarter. Considering the Flyers traded prime Jeff Carter for the chance to pick Couturier, why then trade him when he is developing into a great player for someone who is declining.


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 07:05 PM

At the deadline, according to MacKenzie, Vancouver asked for a first, a top prospect and an established center. He obviously wasn't traded, which probably means no one bit. Still, The Flyers apparently made a substantial offer.
http://prohockeytalk...ng-about-edler/
If it didn't involve Couturier, it almost certainly had to be Schenn.

Whatever, the point is that Vancouver is expecting something very substantial for Kesler, something the Devils can't really afford, even if he were the same player he was a few years ago.




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Posted 16 June 2014 - 08:17 PM

Hemsky has turned down the Senators three year offer

he's a Czech ? but I dont think we need a RW 

Our problem is besides Sislo, we have no RW. Everyone (wf's) shoots left.  We need RW severely! If fact, I hope that all we draft


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 08:23 PM

Our problem is besides Sislo, we have no RW. Everyone (wf's) shoots left.  We need RW severely! If fact, I hope that all we draft

we have Ryder and Brunner, they are righties


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