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#481 slasher72

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 06:16 PM

Does anyone get nervous that Lou will keep the team basically the same as last year sans Marty and maybe Volchenkov? I can't see him getting rid of Sal or the CBGB line. I also think he may be under the impression that all the pieces are there to compete, as he's done many times in the past.
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Posted 17 June 2014 - 06:44 PM

Does anyone get nervous that Lou will keep the team basically the same as last year sans Marty and maybe Volchenkov? I can't see him getting rid of Sal or the CBGB line. I also think he may be under the impression that all the pieces are there to compete, as he's done many times in the past.

 

Yep.

 

Although I think Lou will certainly try.  But he's tried before to trade some of the dead weight without much success.  And FA's are always a tossup.. 


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Posted 17 June 2014 - 06:54 PM

I realize the 4th line has gotten the last 5 pages of this thread, but it is the least of this team's problems.  Upgrading the forwards is much more important.  Dainius Zubrus played probably nearly twice as much at ES as any of the CBGB guys did and his year was a disaster - he was a functional player but he just didn't provide any offense.


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Posted 17 June 2014 - 07:06 PM

I realize the 4th line has gotten the last 5 pages of this thread, but it is the least of this team's problems. Upgrading the forwards is much more important. Dainius Zubrus played probably nearly twice as much at ES as any of the CBGB guys did and his year was a disaster - he was a functional player but he just didn't provide any offense.


If Lou actually does bring all three of them back, it likely means there will be no significant improvements to the rest of the forward group.


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Posted 17 June 2014 - 07:09 PM

I realize the 4th line has gotten the last 5 pages of this thread, but it is the least of this team's problems.  Upgrading the forwards is much more important.  Dainius Zubrus played probably nearly twice as much at ES as any of the CBGB guys did and his year was a disaster - he was a functional player but he just didn't provide any offense.

 

Two more years of Zubrus...wonderful.  Another player where the Devils can put anywhere....we know he spent a ton of time in the 1st line, but wasn't there a few times he was demoted to the 4th? Ideally, that's where he is at this point in his career.

 

You are right about the Devils desperately needing to improve the forwards, but where do they do this? Lou brought in Ruutu at the deadline for two years at $3 million something...that seems like the upgrade over a full season. Maybe next year there is more flexibility with Ryder and Brunner gone. For now, you buy out Volchenkov and where do you go...

 

I have no answers here. There isn't much to like up front. And that's with the hope that Jagr and Elias give you exactly the same production.


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Posted 17 June 2014 - 07:29 PM

unless the Devils are willing to put Zubrus and Ruutu on the fourth line and let the CBGB line walk, Devils are not going to have room to sign a scoring forward.  Devils need to start trading for or sign players that can be 1st line players


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Posted 17 June 2014 - 08:12 PM

Lou will impress me if can can pull off some trades, sign a free agent or two, and cut some dead weight this summer, enough to turn this team into a serious playoff team, but I think next season will be only marginally better than last year

I think we have to wait till 2015/2016 for a much improved team


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Posted 17 June 2014 - 08:30 PM

I thought we were sitting pretty under the cap especially if Marty leaves and one of Sal or Volch is bought out?


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Posted 17 June 2014 - 08:43 PM

I think the CBGB line is here to stay. Lou will actually shock the hell out of me if he makes any major changes. I think he'll sign a few utility players and draft a forward whom we can hopefully groom into an NHL caliber player. We have some young guys in the system like Boucher and our defense is in good shape. So i think he'll be patient and keep things steady.

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 09:14 PM

well Stephan Gionta's most likely coming back, his agent said they started talks already

and Lou say's he'd like to sign all three

at Guliti's blog

http://blogs.northje...potential_ufas/


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Posted 17 June 2014 - 09:19 PM

If Bernier is brought back, I'll break sh!t.
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Posted 17 June 2014 - 09:50 PM

Volch should definitely be amnestied or bought out, whatever. That's 4 mil off the books. Offer to re-sign Brodeur for no more than 2 mil. All three of the 4th liners should be offered no more than 1 mil a piece. Let Fayne walk. WIth that cash you can shoe horn at least two decent forwards into your lineup.


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Posted 17 June 2014 - 09:51 PM

Two more years of Zubrus...wonderful.  Another player where the Devils can put anywhere....we know he spent a ton of time in the 1st line, but wasn't there a few times he was demoted to the 4th? Ideally, that's where he is at this point in his career.

 

You are right about the Devils desperately needing to improve the forwards, but where do they do this? Lou brought in Ruutu at the deadline for two years at $3 million something...that seems like the upgrade over a full season. Maybe next year there is more flexibility with Ryder and Brunner gone. For now, you buy out Volchenkov and where do you go...

 

I have no answers here. There isn't much to like up front. And that's with the hope that Jagr and Elias give you exactly the same production.

 

Maybe the Devils cut bait with Zubrus.  Capgeek says you can now buy out 35+ contracts with non-compliance buyouts (something that wasn't the case under the previous CBA).  I mean, it'd be horrible, but it'd be the admission of a mistake.  Maybe they send Zubrus or Ruutu elsewhere for a guy who is a potential compliance buyout (Mike Richards?).  Ruutu waived his NTC once, that doesn't necessarily mean he still has it - when you go to a new team, they can choose to honor that clause or not.

 

And of course Brunner or Ryder will move if NJ picks up pieces of their contract.

 

I look at the roster and I see a giant hole in the center.  I cannot imagine that they expect to fill that hole with either Zubrus, Ruutu, or Henrique, or at least I sure hope not.


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Posted 17 June 2014 - 10:18 PM

Here are the top-three things the Devils should do (in order):

1. Find any team, preferably with a GM who has no background in advanced NHL stats, and trade Bryce Salvador - I don't care if it's for a 7th-round draft pick. Just take it.

2. Do whatever it takes to sign Paul Stastny or Ryan O'Reilly - whoever winds up ultimately walking out on the Avs. Obviously this is going to be difficult, but it's worth the effort.

3. Get Cory Schneider locked up long term.


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Posted 17 June 2014 - 10:23 PM

MadDog2020, on 17 Jun 2014 - 10:19 PM, said:MadDog2020, on 17 Jun 2014 - 10:19 PM, said:

If Bernier is brought back, I'll break sh!t.

 

Lou is likely bringing back the CBGB line intact.  I guarantee you he thinks the team is ready to compete "as is". I just hope he signs Schneider. That's my main worry this offseason.


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Posted 17 June 2014 - 10:29 PM

well Stephan Gionta's most likely coming back, his agent said they started talks already

and Lou say's he'd like to sign all three

at Guliti's blog

http://blogs.northje...potential_ufas/

 

This is exactly what I expect from Lou. I expect him to sign Carter, Bernier, and little Gio.


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Posted 17 June 2014 - 11:59 PM

Here are the top-three things the Devils should do (in order):
1. Find any team, preferably with a GM who has no background in advanced NHL stats, and trade Bryce Salvador - I don't care if it's for a 7th-round draft pick. Just take it.
2. Do whatever it takes to sign Paul Stastny or Ryan [/size]O'Reilly - whoever winds up ultimately walking out on the Avs. Obviously this is going to be difficult, but it's worth the effort.[/size]
3. Get Cory Schneider locked up long term.[/size]

This.

I also hope at least Carter stays, I always thought he was pretty good. Other than that hopefully Lou can pull off a major overhaul or something...

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 12:22 AM

i want carter to come back.. i wouldnt mind gio coming back he works hard every single game and we could use his speed.. bernier oh my god take a fvcking hike loser
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Posted 18 June 2014 - 03:11 AM

i am not sure if this was discussed earlier in the thread but if we buy out salvador and volchenkov, would everyone be comfortable with calling up someone from the minors or would it too pricey to go after Niskanen


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Posted 18 June 2014 - 04:26 AM

This is exactly what I expect from Lou. I expect him to sign Carter, Bernier, and little Gio.

You missed the fact that Bernier hasn't heard anything from Lou just yet, just Gio according to TG and some other good faith talks.  To be honest I'd like to see Boyle brought in to play 4th line/3rd line center if you're not going to get CBGB cheap.  In a perfect world, I'd like to see just Carter back and leave some room for younger players to step into New Jersey. 


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