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#561 Triumph

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Posted 19 June 2014 - 12:31 AM

For a buyout of Clowe to make sense, the Devils have to expect to get less than the difference of his buyout and his actual contract.  Buying him out would cost 12.79M, playing him costs 19.2.  So the Devils would have to expect less than 6.4M in value over the life of the contract, which even given the concussion issues he's had, doesn't seem likely to me.  Two more seasons like the one he just had would get him there.


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Posted 19 June 2014 - 03:39 AM

I'm thinking Clowe is fine.  I think I'd be kind of swaying towards Brian Boyle.  Although I wouldn't pay him 2m/year that's for sure.  The player that I wanted to point out was Patrik Elias.  I sat down and stared at the stats and he had 53 points in 65 games.  Has he slowed in skating at all?  I was thinking that the only thing that's truly going to slow Patty down would be injuries, as compared to his age slowing him down. 


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Posted 19 June 2014 - 08:02 AM

Lou is only 71 years old, seems to be in good health, and seems to enjoy what he's doing. He could be the GM for another 10 years, and absolutely no one will fire him. So, I dunno.. i'm not so sure he's retiring so soon.

"Only" 71..

Being a GM is a pretty stressful job for anyone, let alone a man in his 70s.

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Posted 19 June 2014 - 08:52 AM

I mean, sure, it's stressful...but something tells me if he's been doing it for 30 years, the guys like him, Poile and Sather have figured out a system of ways to make their lives very manageable. Let's remember they are helming a hockey team. They don't have nuclear missles or brain surgery to do in the morning. At the end of the day, I think they know this.


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Posted 19 June 2014 - 08:59 AM

Lou seems like the type of guy that if he had surgery for a major illness the minute he got out of the hospital he would be back in his office doing business as usual.

Maybe as he gets older he'll dish-off some duties to whoever he feels can become the "Next One"


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Posted 19 June 2014 - 09:22 AM

Lou is probably done in he next year or two once he locks up Schneider and Elias is done playing.
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Posted 19 June 2014 - 09:30 AM

I mean, sure, it's stressful...but something tells me if he's been doing it for 30 years, the guys like him, Poile and Sather have figured out a system of ways to make their lives very manageable. Let's remember they are helming a hockey team. They don't have nuclear missles or brain surgery to do in the morning. At the end of the day, I think they know this.

 

Guys like Sather and Murray have lieutenants that do a lot of the day-to-day work for them. From all accounts, Lou does not have these people around. 

 

It's a job if done correctly, there really shouldn't be any time off.  


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Posted 19 June 2014 - 10:26 AM

since the new owners took over, Lou's duties have been reduced, he's only running the Devils now, not all the other BS


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Posted 19 June 2014 - 10:49 AM

since the new owners took over, Lou's duties have been reduced, he's only running the Devils now, not all the other BS

this is probably a good thing though, and maybe thats what he wanted as well.
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Posted 19 June 2014 - 02:19 PM

this is probably a good thing though, and maybe thats what he wanted as well.

Yeah it is a good thing, some people saw it as the new owners taking away power from Lou, but the new owners seem to be experts in efficiency and have management teams for everything that's going on in Newark, the Prudential Center etc. Lou can just concentrate on the team.


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Posted 19 June 2014 - 02:49 PM

I guess this whole discussion is predicated on whether or not we can actually get a big name UFA to come here. I'm reminded of Clowe's response in getting signed with NJ when he said the price and terms were right. There was no mention of wanting to play with the Devils. This club is still in the lower tier as far as being a sexy place to play.

 

He did say he liked the area from his short time as a Ranger and that the proximity to the airport was a big plus for him, to be able to catch a direct flight to Newfoundland when he wanted to visit his family.

 

Although not a UFA, Schneider sang a similar tune. Being 4 hours from his family in Massachussetts is a lot better than being 2-transfer-flights and a 10 hour trip in Vancouver...

 

Regardless, like it or not, being 15 minutes from New York City is our biggest selling point to UFAs. A better season and Schneider signed long-term will also work wonders.


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Posted 19 June 2014 - 02:58 PM

hey..if this town is good enough for Jaromir Jagr....its good enough for anybody


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Posted 19 June 2014 - 03:02 PM

He did say he liked the area from his short time as a Ranger and that the proximity to the airport was a big plus for him, to be able to catch a direct flight to Newfoundland when he wanted to visit his family.

 

Although not a UFA, Schneider sang a similar tune. Being 4 hours from his family in Massachussetts is a lot better than being 2-transfer-flights and a 10 hour trip in Vancouver...

 

Regardless, like it or not, being 15 minutes from New York City is our biggest selling point to UFAs. A better season and Schneider signed long-term will also work wonders.

 

I think all it would really take is for some of these guys to see the nicer parts of Jersey. Most people who aren't from Jersey only see this state as the Turnpike and Newark Airport.


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Posted 19 June 2014 - 04:58 PM

look at Scott Stevens,he  didnt want to come here after the compensation saga, then re-signed with St Louis before Lou matched the offer, and now he makes his home in NJ and enjoys the fishing and all that good stuff

heck Dano didnt even know where New Jersey was when he was drafted

it just takes a little time and then they like it

Didnt Grant Marshall also stay here after he retired?


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Posted 19 June 2014 - 06:22 PM

Steve Pelligrini and Chris Lamoriello are pretty much assistant GMs that you don't hear anything about. I think Lou has an eye on everything, but I think these two have big roles in day-to-day ops.


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Posted 19 June 2014 - 06:38 PM

I just because of our severe lack of center depth and with no one projected to be top six in the system - I think they need to be overly aggressive to see if they can pick up the pieces of whatever Statsny or ROR happens in Colorado. I know Lou hates offer sheets, well at least you've heard that, but in this case - you'd think ROR would well be worth a 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounder. If Colorado wants to match, then so be it. I'd also be in favor of going the trade route, even if it means giving up someone like Andy Greene.


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Posted 19 June 2014 - 07:45 PM

I just because of our severe lack of center depth and with no one projected to be top six in the system - I think they need to be overly aggressive to see if they can pick up the pieces of whatever Statsny or ROR happens in Colorado. I know Lou hates offer sheets, well at least you've heard that, but in this case - you'd think ROR would well be worth a 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounder. If Colorado wants to match, then so be it. I'd also be in favor of going the trade route, even if it means giving up someone like Andy Greene.

 

Offer sheet no bueno, too high of a chance Colorado matches.  And then if they don't match, well how onerous is that contract


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Posted 19 June 2014 - 08:45 PM

why are the Devils worried about the fourth line when they need to address the first two lines

amen. It's really head scratching. I've never heard of a fanbase that when their team is bottom five in the NHL in offense they complain about fourth liners and bottom pairing defensemen. I guess you can put a change to the fourth line in your wish list but to have practically half this thread dedicated to fourth lines/league minimum guys is ridiculous.

Maybe it's just the offseason doldrums, but this has been going on all season.
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Posted 19 June 2014 - 08:53 PM

amen. It's really head scratching. I've never heard of a fanbase that when their team is bottom five in the NHL in offense they complain about fourth liners and bottom pairing defensemen. I guess you can put a change to the fourth line in your wish list but to have practically half this thread dedicated to fourth lines/league minimum guys is ridiculous.

Maybe it's just the offseason doldrums, but this has been going on all season.

the entire 4th line are UFA

thats why there's so much discussion


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Posted 19 June 2014 - 08:57 PM

Probably also has to do with the fact that Lou can talk with them and can't talk with anyone else yet.


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