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#41 2ELIAS6

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Posted 26 April 2014 - 04:36 PM

Where did anyone say any of this?

i think he was just trying to say that mb talks out of his ass and is ridiculous..
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Posted 27 April 2014 - 08:47 AM

Where did anyone say any of this?

 

The implication of the post was "I'd like to get some new FA's sure, but if we don't, no big deal." That was pretty clear.


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Posted 27 April 2014 - 08:57 AM

The implication of the post was "I'd like to get some new FA's sure, but if we don't, no big deal." That was pretty clear.


:lol: you waited 2 days and then completely misrepresented what he said.

Disagree with someone all you want but at least do it honestly.

There were 2 things said, this same roster probably makes the playoffs next season, which I think is probably true, and the Devils should try to add some of the good free agents.

As an aside that isn't directed at Neboors or this topic, I don't understand wanting to complain about a poster whenever they post instead of ignoring or discussing. It's getting hard to sift through a lot of threads because they're just becoming personal insults and arguments without any hockey talk.
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Posted 27 April 2014 - 09:25 AM

Unfourtunently i do agree i dont think salvador will be bought out.. however volchenkov on the other hand who knows..maybe


I don't think either one will happen. I'd be hard pressed to not cut one of those two guys loose. How about compliance buyout for Volchenkov and waive Salvador and eat the 3.16 million?sucks for next year but his replacement (Gelinas, Merrill, Larsson) probably makes pennies.
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Posted 27 April 2014 - 10:14 AM

I don't think either one will happen. I'd be hard pressed to not cut one of those two guys loose. How about compliance buyout for Volchenkov and waive Salvador and eat the 3.16 million?sucks for next year but his replacement (Gelinas, Merrill, Larsson) probably makes pennies.


Salvador is very tradeable, so you wouldn't have to waive him. An average NHL salary for one more year and no NTC. You could probably get a fourth round pick for him, especially from a team like Buffalo that has more picks than it knows what to do with. I think Lou wants to keep him around though, unless this analytics person ends up having more influence than we expect.

It looks more and more likely that Volchenkov gets bought out.


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Posted 27 April 2014 - 12:22 PM

Salvador is very tradeable, so you wouldn't have to waive him. An average NHL salary for one more year and no NTC. You could probably get a fourth round pick for him, especially from a team like Buffalo that has more picks than it knows what to do with. I think Lou wants to keep him around though, unless this analytics person ends up having more influence than we expect.

It looks more and more likely that Volchenkov gets bought out.


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Posted 27 April 2014 - 12:31 PM

If the Devils buy out Volchenkov they can use the 4.25mil to pay Fayne, Larsson, and Gelinas.  I hope the Devils make some kind of trade during the offseason


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Posted 27 April 2014 - 05:47 PM

sal was 'injured' for the last few games, so i think lou had the retirement or buyout talk with him. i don't think any team would want sal with what he brings to the table, even if they give up a late rounder.


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Posted 27 April 2014 - 06:39 PM

sal was 'injured' for the last few games, so i think lou had the retirement or buyout talk with him. i don't think any team would want sal with what he brings to the table, even if they give up a late rounder.


Hal Gill's performance today is an indication that Salvador is a useful enough defenseman that some team would take him for a year.


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Posted 27 April 2014 - 06:44 PM

yea i guess there is always idiot teams that can pick up second worsts. 


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Posted 27 April 2014 - 06:56 PM

Hal Gill's performance today is an indication that Salvador is a useful enough defenseman that some team would take him for a year.


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Gill was terrible. It's hard to believe the Flyers had no one else that could play at a serviceable level other then a washed up, plodding 39 year old.


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Posted 27 April 2014 - 07:06 PM

Hal Gill's performance today is an indication that Salvador is a useful enough defenseman that some team would take him for a year.


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Gill is much cheaper.  NJ could deal Salvador, maybe, but they would definitely have to pick up part of the check.  And I don't think they will do that.


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Posted 27 April 2014 - 08:07 PM

Gill is much cheaper. NJ could deal Salvador, maybe, but they would definitely have to pick up part of the check. And I don't think they will do that.


Gill is cheaper, but he arguably was responsible for today's loss, and as the sixth defenseman. Doesn't matter if he's making the league minimum, he's awful at any price. Some teams that are otherwise pretty good find themselves relying on an anchor like Gill, which is why they would have use for someone like Salvador. We don't like him, but the fact remains he gets decent ice time on the best defensive team in the league.

Whether they have to pick up part of the check depends on who he theoretically would be dealt to. He's got one year left, and you would tend to have to give up something of use if you want the other team to retain salary. If you're a team that's not in cap he'll next year, you can absorb that whole salary without issue.


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Posted 27 April 2014 - 08:50 PM

Gill was a healthy scratch 70+ times this year.  The Flyers signed him and then did not use him, not for any reason.  I have no idea why they went to him today.  

 

Salvador just can't be used in a top 4 role next year, he should take over Volchenkov's minutes when Volchenkov is complianced.  I also don't think you can drum up a market for a guy who's been injured 3 times in the last 2 years and who turns 39 next season.  You have to take on a bad contract or pick up a piece of its salary for it to move, and that's if you're lucky.


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Posted 27 April 2014 - 09:43 PM

It will be an interesting offseason. I believe NJ makes a little bit of a youth move next year seeing that they were a little too slow last year. Sislo, Josefson and Boucher full time next year. On defense I believe a move has to be made, I can't really see all three of Gelinas, Merrill and Larsson in the lineup at once.


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Posted 27 April 2014 - 09:50 PM

Greene - Fayne

Merrill - Larsson

Salvador - Zidlicky

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 10:01 PM

It will be an interesting offseason. I believe NJ makes a little bit of a youth move next year seeing that they were a little too slow last year. Sislo, Josefson and Boucher full time next year. On defense I believe a move has to be made, I can't really see all three of Gelinas, Merrill and Larsson in the lineup at once.


Josefson has no future here with Deboer staying. I'd love Sislo in a 4th line role to replace Bernier but time will tell if that 4th line gets shuffled off the roster like it should and deserves to be.

I think one of the young D is getting shipped out in a trade.
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Posted 27 April 2014 - 10:30 PM

:lol: you waited 2 days and then completely misrepresented what he said.

Disagree with someone all you want but at least do it honestly.

There were 2 things said, this same roster probably makes the playoffs next season, which I think is probably true, and the Devils should try to add some of the good free agents.

As an aside that isn't directed at Neboors or this topic, I don't understand wanting to complain about a poster whenever they post instead of ignoring or discussing. It's getting hard to sift through a lot of threads because they're just becoming personal insults and arguments without any hockey talk.

 

You use a laughing face in your response to me and then you call for cordiality later in your post? As for waiting two days, I mean, I am busy this time of year and see the posts when I do; who are you to judge when I respond to posts?

 

If anything you are misrepresenting what he is saying. His phrasing clearly implied that if the Devils don't make roster changes, it's no big deal. That was clear. I don't personally insult MB, and there are only a few people who do. I engage him in debate all the time and so do others. 

 

Lastly, take it in context. If you know where MB has stood on the Devils this season - making ridiculous posts about how the Devils would easily make the playoffs and how the team could easily go on winning streaks, then maybe you'd understand the discourse taking place here.


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Posted 28 April 2014 - 12:17 AM

It will be an interesting offseason. I believe NJ makes a little bit of a youth move next year seeing that they were a little too slow last year. Sislo, Josefson and Boucher full time next year. On defense I believe a move has to be made, I can't really see all three of Gelinas, Merrill and Larsson in the lineup at once.

 

I'm not sure, although Josefson was given an audition of sorts late in the season.  I think Sislo could make the team - of course he is also eligible to walk, though I doubt he will.  I think NJ will give him a shot to make the roster.  Boucher, dunno, lot depends on his training camp, but I'm not sure he will have a spot penciled in for him.  If they dump Josefson or he leaves they will need someone to replace that, because Scott Timmins is not that guy and neither is Kelly Zajac.

 

Merrill's not going to be someone to worry about, and neither really is Larsson - I think they could rotate one guy out sometimes and switch Harrold in.  


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Posted 28 April 2014 - 03:04 PM

Salvador is very tradeable, so you wouldn't have to waive him. An average NHL salary for one more year and no NTC. You could probably get a fourth round pick for him, especially from a team like Buffalo that has more picks than it knows what to do with. I think Lou wants to keep him around though, unless this analytics person ends up having more influence than we expect.

It looks more and more likely that Volchenkov gets bought out.


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