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#721 moustic

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Posted 27 June 2014 - 09:44 AM

But these "second grade" players... they will wait the initial frenzy... They aren't stupid ; ) 


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Posted 27 June 2014 - 09:44 AM

Vrbata and Michalek would be a pretty decent UFA period for us. Can't help but think they're options 2 & 3 for many teams going for the bigger moves, so if Lou goes into July 1st conceding defeat on guys like Stastny/Vanek/Moulson, he can get a Vrbata, Michalek, or Grabovski before there's a frenzy to grab them in the days after July 1st/2nd.


They will be in high demand even as second tier targets by teams that don't want or can't afford the top tier. Plus all those guys are not significant upgrades over Ryder or some of our other forwards. They are yet again short term fill ins.
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Posted 27 June 2014 - 09:56 AM

They will be in high demand even as second tier targets by teams that don't want or can't afford the top tier. Plus all those guys are not significant upgrades over Ryder or some of our other forwards. They are yet again short term fill ins.

 

They're both significant upgrades over Ryder considering they are both two way forwards.


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Posted 27 June 2014 - 10:07 AM

But these "second grade" players... they will wait the initial frenzy... They aren't stupid ; ) 

 

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Posted 27 June 2014 - 10:52 AM

They will be in high demand even as second tier targets by teams that don't want or can't afford the top tier. Plus all those guys are not significant upgrades over Ryder or some of our other forwards. They are yet again short term fill ins.

You should read the article I posted from In Lou We Trust.  Those players are significant play drivers and can put the puck in the net AND play defense.  Second tier guys? Yeah okay.  Out of those three qualities, Ryder has one and he didn't even perform that role very well. 


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Posted 27 June 2014 - 11:23 AM

You should read the article I posted from In Lou We Trust. Those players are significant play drivers and can put the puck in the net AND play defense. Second tier guys? Yeah okay. Out of those three qualities, Ryder has one and he didn't even perform that role very well.


Vrbata doesn't really play defense. Tippett kind of accepts his limitations. Grabovski plays center and is redundant fit with Ruutu here. Ryder would have to be moved to make room for either Michalek or Vrbata.
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Posted 27 June 2014 - 11:32 AM

Vrbata doesn't really play defense. Tippett kind of accepts his limitations. Grabovski plays center and is redundant fit with Ruutu here. Ryder would have to be moved to make room for either Michalek or Vrbata.

 

How is Grabovski a redundant fit with Ruutu here?  Ruutu doesn't really play center - he can play it, but not well - and they play totally different games.


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Posted 27 June 2014 - 11:34 AM

Speaking of left wings there are rumors out of Montreal that Pacioretty might be available. Interesting but if true we won't have the pieces to get him.
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Posted 27 June 2014 - 11:41 AM

How is Grabovski a redundant fit with Ruutu here? Ruutu doesn't really play center - he can play it, but not well - and they play totally different games.


He's not coming here to be a 3rd line center. Ruutu may not play center well but he or Zubrus will get the third line duties if needed.

Speaking of left wings there are rumors out of Montreal that Pacioretty might be available. Interesting but if true we won't have the pieces to get him.


They would ask for Larsson and Matteau.
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Posted 27 June 2014 - 11:43 AM

I'd trade Larsson and Matteau in a second for Pacioretty.

 

Grabovski would be the 2nd line center, Elias would be the 3rd line center.  It'd be academic anyway.  Zubrus or Ruutu as 3rd line center is a disaster.


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Posted 27 June 2014 - 11:58 AM

Patches is on a great contract a well, 4.5m until 2018.
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Posted 27 June 2014 - 12:12 PM

I hope to hear big news for us in these few days so I can unleash  this gif:

 

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Posted 27 June 2014 - 12:13 PM

I hope they make a trade but I doubt it


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Posted 27 June 2014 - 12:33 PM

I'd trade Larsson and Matteau in a second for Pacioretty.

Grabovski would be the 2nd line center, Elias would be the 3rd line center. It'd be academic anyway. Zubrus or Ruutu as 3rd line center is a disaster.


I concur. I'd actually like that idea more now that I see it like that. Zubrus and Ruutu are going to have to be split up anyhow on the lines. I can't imagine how many odd man rushes there would be if a Ruutu, Zubrus, Clowe line ever got put together. They'd be great at cycling and board play but that would be it.

I'd like to know why MTL is looking to move Pacioretty. My guess is there might be something personality wise with either Subban or Therrien.
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Posted 27 June 2014 - 12:34 PM

I hope to hear big news for us in these few days so I can unleash  this gif:

 

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Posted 27 June 2014 - 12:57 PM

When is the nhl announcing the new salary cap? Isn't that today? Maybe tomorrow?

They're saying it should he in th high 60's, possibly low 70's (millions)
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Posted 27 June 2014 - 12:58 PM

When is the nhl announcing the new salary cap? Isn't that today? Maybe tomorrow?

They're saying it should he in th high 60's, possibly low 70's (millions)


Between 68 and 71 is the rumored margin.
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Posted 27 June 2014 - 01:05 PM

I'd trade Larsson and Matteau in a second for Pacioretty.

 

Grabovski would be the 2nd line center, Elias would be the 3rd line center.  It'd be academic anyway.  Zubrus or Ruutu as 3rd line center is a disaster.

Matteau, yeah I could part with and its a prime time to trade him you're going to do it, but Larsson? Idk.  I don't know if I'd want to give up on Larsson yet at this stage in his development.  Pacioretty is soooooooo worth it, but I'd be more inclined to giving up a 1st and 2nd, Ryder/Zubrus/Brunner and Matteau.  Granted I don't think any of those 3 veterans have any value, but I think they would consider Zubrus considering his size. 


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Posted 27 June 2014 - 01:07 PM

Matteau, yeah I could part with and its a prime time to trade him you're going to do it, but Larsson? Idk.  I don't know if I'd want to give up on Larsson yet at this stage in his development.  Pacioretty is soooooooo worth it, but I'd be more inclined to giving up a 1st and 2nd, Ryder/Zubrus/Brunner and Matteau.  Granted I don't think any of those 3 veterans have any value, but I think they would consider Zubrus considering his size. 

 

Therrien isn't going to want Ryder back and you would give up a 1st and a 2nd? Like this year's 2nd and next year's 1st? fvck that!


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Posted 27 June 2014 - 01:09 PM

Therrien isn't going to want Ryder back and you would give up a 1st and a 2nd? Like this year's 2nd and next year's 1st? fvck that!

yea let's stick with the Larsson and Matteau trade. I'd do it. That logjam on D needs to go and if it meant brining in Pacioretty I'm all for it
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