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#761 MadDog2020

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Posted 29 June 2014 - 11:22 AM

With buffalo buying out erhoff - they have to trade for contracts. Murray has said he'll take contracts with draft picks.

Hey Sal, enjoy western New York.

Just posted a McKenzie tweet about this in the other thread- this is screaming Lou's name loudly.
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Posted 29 June 2014 - 11:23 AM

With buffalo buying out erhoff - they have to trade for contracts. Murray has said he'll take contracts with draft picks.

Hey Sal, enjoy western New York.

 

It's not going to happen unfortunately.  I think Lou just believes Sal is a good, and perhaps very good player.  Volchenkov has the NTC.  And we don't need additional cap space than is already there to give Brian Gionta 4 years/$16 million. 


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 11:24 AM

4-16 for Gionta would be put Lou in the loony bin type crazy.  AT MOST he should get a two-year deal, and not at that money per year either.


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 11:26 AM

4-16 for Gionta would be put Lou in the loony bin type crazy.  AT MOST he should get a two-year deal, and not at that money per year either.

 

I believe Gionta was making 5 in MTL. I wouldn't be surprised if Lou gave him something close to that.


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 11:26 AM

It's not going to happen unfortunately.  I think Lou just believes Sal is a good, and perhaps very good player.  Volchenkov has the NTC.  And we don't need additional cap space than is already there to give Brian Gionta 4 years/$16 million. 

 

Lou decided to walk away from Gionta 5 years ago because he wouldn't pay him 5/$25, but now he'd feel comfortable giving him years and $$$?


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 11:28 AM

Lou decided to walk away from Gionta 5 years because he wouldn't pay him 5/$25, but now he'd feel comfortable giving him years and $$$?


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 11:28 AM

Lou decided to walk away from Gionta 5 years because he wouldn't pay him 5/$25, but now he'd feel comfortable giving him years and $$$?

 

Well the cap is higher now.  And he said he wants to address the lack of scoring.  Gio also proved to be a leader capable of carrying his team to the conference finals.


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 11:50 AM

I believe Gionta was making 5 in MTL. I wouldn't be surprised if Lou gave him something close to that.


Talks have apparently broken down in Montreal. I say Lou signs him for 4.5 mil for 2 years.
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Posted 29 June 2014 - 02:26 PM

Lou isn't ever going to create a list of defensmen that looks good on paper because he slots players in certain roles. If you buy out Salvador and Volchenkov than you have Greene, Zidlicky, Merril and Fayne playing PK. These guys are speciality players for the PK and it seems Lou values a strong PK over certain weaknesses 5 on 5.


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 04:11 PM

Lou isn't ever going to create a list of defensmen that looks good on paper because he slots players in certain roles. If you buy out Salvador and Volchenkov than you have Greene, Zidlicky, Merril and Fayne playing PK. These guys are speciality players for the PK and it seems Lou values a strong PK over certain weaknesses 5 on 5.

 

I don't think anyone is asking Lou to get rid of Sal and Volch, but one should go.


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 04:23 PM

I don't think anyone is asking Lou to get rid of Sal and Volch, but one should go.

Gelinas, Larsson, Merrill and Zidlicky are all most likely poor on the PK. With Fayne  likely cashing out that leaves Greene and Salvador/Volchekov to kill penalties. 

 

Greene - Merrill

Volchekov/Gelinas - Larsson

Salvador-ZIdlicky

 

THis is most likely how NJ opens the season.


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 04:34 PM

Gionta's also going to be 35 at the beginning of next season and clearly on the downside of his career, he's not getting a 4-year deal from ANYone, come on.


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 04:39 PM

Gionta's also going to be 35 going into next season, he's not getting a 4-year deal from ANYone, come on.

 

Although I like him and I hope he's 100%, Clowe, was coming off recent postseason injuries, a history of concussions and received 5 for 5.

I don't think anything is impossible with Lou.


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 04:42 PM

Five years was dumb but I'm sure others were offering at least 3-4.  Clowe also has a specific skillset we needed, and gets ridiculously overpaid in FA because there aren't many physical players who score goals (see: Clarkson, David).


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 04:45 PM

Five years was dumb but I'm sure others were offering at least 3-4.  Clowe also has a specific skillset we needed, and gets ridiculously overpaid in FA because there aren't many physical players who score goals (see: Clarkson, David).

 

I think Clowe is awesome and I like what he brings, but signing him based on his injury history was incredibly risky.


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Posted 30 June 2014 - 12:00 AM

the clowe signing is without a doubt going to wind up being a bad contract hes not going to be able to stay healthy.. if he cant stay healthy and play his tough enforcer type physical game than he is useless to us..enough with damaged scraps for goods that we always wind up with..
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Posted 30 June 2014 - 03:19 AM

the clowe signing is without a doubt going to wind up being a bad contract hes not going to be able to stay healthy.. if he cant stay healthy and play his tough enforcer type physical game than he is useless to us..enough with damaged scraps for goods that we always wind up with..

Clowe is not an enforcer. Not anymore. He can play that game, but his game is going to change to just being able to clear room for other players and being able to pass well.  He looked good when he wasn't hurt and pretty much what you can expect from him when he's not playing with Joe Thornton or Pavelski.  Still not the best contract, but he was a guy like Clarkson, but better than Clarkson, who we paid less for than Clarkson.  So I don't know, but I still think Clowe passes for a good hockey player. 


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Posted 30 June 2014 - 09:07 AM

http://www.hockey30....evils-sabres-p/

 

so this based in quebec is stating that Gionta felt insulted by Bergevin's offer (1 year) i guess he really lowballed him (at least in his mind) and that he'll likely go somewhere else.

 

 

Also says that his agent had discussion with NJ, Buffalo and Florida. But that the $ is the #1 thing for his next contract.

 

I dont even see the need for Gionta other than Lou wanting to get yet another ex devils and get the brothers together.

 

We have Jagr who's our top RW so far. Brunner and Ryder are there too... so throw Gionta on top of that? none of them are really 4th line kind of guys and they would all be pretty interchangeable.

 

Henrique - Zajac - Jagr

Clowe - Elias - Brunner

Ruutu - Zubrus - Ryder

Carter - Josefson - Sislo

 

i wan't Carter absolutely back in the lineup but here's what he have even without both Giontas... other than Sislo? who can we even bump out? plus that's really not a great lineup.


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Posted 30 June 2014 - 09:40 AM

Five years was dumb but I'm sure others were offering at least 3-4. Clowe also has a specific skillset we needed, and gets ridiculously overpaid in FA because there aren't many physical players who score goals (see: Clarkson, David).


Well Clowe isn't among them himself in that group.
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Posted 30 June 2014 - 11:09 AM

Goddamn that Ruutu Zubrus Ryder line aka the Molasses line.
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