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#901 Daniel

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 02:18 PM

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 02:28 PM

"We are pleased to announce that we have signed Tedenby to a 4-year contract.  His speed, skill and familiarity with the Devils organization are values we place a high emphasis on.  His addition to the lineup will coach Pete more options on the wings for the upcoming season."


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Posted 09 July 2014 - 02:30 PM

"We are pleased to announce that we have signed Tedenby to a 4-year contract.  His speed, skill and familiarity with the Devils organization are values we place a high emphasis on.  His addition to the lineup will coach Pete more options on the wings for the upcoming season."

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 11:25 PM

Exercise in futility - what would it take to get Evander Kane?  I realize many are opposed to the idea in general, but what do we think Jets would want back?  I reckon a good roster player at least (ie, someone of actual value).

 

Does Henrique+Ryder+Prospect or Pick get it done?


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Posted 09 July 2014 - 11:53 PM

Exercise in futility - what would it take to get Evander Kane? I realize many are opposed to the idea in general, but what do we think Jets would want back? I reckon a good roster player at least (ie, someone of actual value).

Does Henrique+Ryder+Prospect or Pick get it done?

Probably start with Henrique, throw in one of the young D, another roster player and next year's 1st.

So..pass. I'd love Ekane on the Devils but it ain't happening.
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Posted 10 July 2014 - 02:57 AM

Exercise in futility - what would it take to get Evander Kane?  I realize many are opposed to the idea in general, but what do we think Jets would want back?  I reckon a good roster player at least (ie, someone of actual value).

 

Does Henrique+Ryder+Prospect or Pick get it done?

Henrique, 2015 1st, Gelinas/Larsson, and a veteran (Jagr, Ryder, Brunner).  It just doesn't make sense to make a trade like that to blow up this team.  If Winnipeg is forced into a move by Kane not re-signing when he has one year left on his deal, that's when teams can give up a little less for him, but not much less really.   


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 09:19 AM

Winnipeg might want Zajac involved in a trade for Kane. Only reason I say that though is because he's from there. I don't really know their needs.
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Posted 10 July 2014 - 09:48 AM

A headcase who's never approached a PPG pace, and no long term contract? I don't see Kane being THAT valuable. Larsson, Ryder, 1st, and forward prospect of their choice would be a pretty damn good package for them to consider. Asking for Henrique is madness, as Kane is not better enough to trade 3 significant other pieces compared to Henrique
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Posted 10 July 2014 - 10:02 AM

Winnipeg might want Zajac involved in a trade for Kane. Only reason I say that though is because he's from there. I don't really know their needs.

zajac doesnt have a ntc?
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Posted 10 July 2014 - 10:09 AM

Lou keeps talking about wanting Carter back, and the feeling seems mutual. It be weird for the Devils to trade a forward to clear room for Carter, Really hoping that isn't the case.

 

No clue what happened there. Maybe Carter's agent overvalued his client, thus avoiding a signing in day 1 with the Devils, and now they are stuck waiting.


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 10:17 AM

as much as i would like to have carter back.. especially over the other 2 fourth liners.. i hope lou does not give him anything more than what he is worth to this team just to bring him back here..he is still a fourth liner and should be paid like one
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Posted 10 July 2014 - 10:44 AM

Lou keeps talking about wanting Carter back, and the feeling seems mutual. It be weird for the Devils to trade a forward to clear room for Carter, Really hoping that isn't the case.

 

No clue what happened there. Maybe Carter's agent overvalued his client, thus avoiding a signing in day 1 with the Devils, and now they are stuck waiting.

 

I think that's what they are doing.  While it's not a very good move, it will save money.  I'd like to get Gelinas signed to a 3 year deal if that does happen.


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 10:54 AM

zajac doesnt have a ntc?

 

Yeah looks like he does. I know he likes it here and I doubt Lou would ever ask him to waive it which is cool with me because I like people who like to play here.


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 11:06 AM

Henrique, 2015 1st, Gelinas/Larsson, and a veteran (Jagr, Ryder, Brunner).  It just doesn't make sense to make a trade like that to blow up this team.  If Winnipeg is forced into a move by Kane not re-signing when he has one year left on his deal, that's when teams can give up a little less for him, but not much less really.   

 

The one deal that was rumored by someone half-way credible was Marchand for Kane.  The package you suggest would be absolute lunacy.  We'd be giving up a lot more than Dallas gave up for a much better player in Seguin.  And Boston has basically got lucky in that deal as Reilly Smith was something of a throw-in at the time. 


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 11:15 AM

I think that's what they are doing.  While it's not a very good move, it will save money.  I'd like to get Gelinas signed to a 3 year deal if that does happen.

 

I just hate a situation where an offensive player or two gets hurt and instead of sliding a Ryder or a Brunner in there you now move up Bernier or Zubrus.

 

I also really hate the idea of CBGB reuniting and then having Zubrus playing 3rd line or better minutes all season.


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 11:36 AM

I just hate a situation where an offensive player or two gets hurt and instead of sliding a Ryder or a Brunner in there you now move up Bernier or Zubrus.

 

I also really hate the idea of CBGB reuniting and then having Zubrus playing 3rd line or better minutes all season.

 

I think it's nuts to assume that the opening day lineup, barring injuries, would have a guy like Brunner or Ryder (or Havlat) scratched.  But that's what it would have - they're not going to play one of those guys on the 4th line.  Even now assuming everyone makes it through camp healthy and with one guy dealt, NJ still has these forwards:  Cammalleri, Zajac, Jagr, Ruutu, Elias, Havlat, Clowe, Henrique, Ryder/Brunner, Zubrus, Carter, Gionta, Bernier, Josefson - that's still one too many.  It might mean Bernier as a healthy scratch.


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 12:10 PM

I think it's nuts to assume that the opening day lineup, barring injuries, would have a guy like Brunner or Ryder (or Havlat) scratched.  But that's what it would have - they're not going to play one of those guys on the 4th line.  Even now assuming everyone makes it through camp healthy and with one guy dealt, NJ still has these forwards:  Cammalleri, Zajac, Jagr, Ruutu, Elias, Havlat, Clowe, Henrique, Ryder/Brunner, Zubrus, Carter, Gionta, Bernier, Josefson - that's still one too many.  It might mean Bernier as a healthy scratch.

So assuming one of Ryder or Brunner is gone, you think Josefson will actually see some ice time this year?  I really really want it and think he's ready, but I didn't think you were very high on Jajo


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 12:18 PM

The one deal that was rumored by someone half-way credible was Marchand for Kane.  The package you suggest would be absolute lunacy.  We'd be giving up a lot more than Dallas gave up for a much better player in Seguin.  And Boston has basically got lucky in that deal as Reilly Smith was something of a throw-in at the time. 

It's not about Seguins value is in comparison, it's about what Winnipeg would accept. For a key part of their franchise.  Winnipeg doesn't have players like Beregeron and Krejci, Lucic to fall back on.  


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 12:33 PM

The one deal that was rumored by someone half-way credible was Marchand for Kane. The package you suggest would be absolute lunacy. We'd be giving up a lot more than Dallas gave up for a much better player in Seguin. And Boston has basically got lucky in that deal as Reilly Smith was something of a throw-in at the time.

IMO the bobby Ryan deal is a good comparable. Two good (although not top-flight) prospects and a first.

If henrique is even mentioned as a starting point in a potential trade for Kane I hangup. Honestly I probably wouldn't make that trade straight up.

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 12:34 PM

It's not about Seguins value is in comparison, it's about what Winnipeg would accept. For a key part of their franchise.  Winnipeg doesn't have players like Beregeron and Krejci, Lucic to fall back on.  

 

If Winnipeg wants more of a return for Kane, then they're not going to find a trade partner.  The only thing that changes that is if Kane has a monster year, but at that point, Winnipeg probably won't trade him anyway.


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