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#301 NJDevs4978

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Posted 17 October 2014 - 05:10 PM

They're gonna have to draft heavy on corners, there's going to be very little cap space all of a sudden especially if they ever get an extension done with Mo.  You can't count on Milliner OR McDougle.


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Posted 17 October 2014 - 05:14 PM

Seattle didn't use Harvin in the WR role much. Isn't really a reliable receiver, kept using him in the run game. Which failed miserably at Dallas.
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Posted 18 October 2014 - 09:36 AM

This would make sense for the Tanny Jets, but I thought Idzik wasn't about the flashy name. It's almost as if Woody put his foot down and demanded Idzik spend some money on a team that's not winning.

 

It does cast a serious cloud of doubt on Idzik, because (like you said) this isn't his style at all. The whole season he's been passing on signing players like: Champ Bailey, Asante Samuel, etc. --and for a GM that had immunity, that process of "remaining status-quo" entirely makes sense. But a blockbuster trade in October for a 1-6 team, shows: he's in just as much hot water as Ryan.. especially given the fact that he passed on D'Jax for being a malcontent, and now goes out and trades for a guy like Harvin.

This trade also clues me in that; maybe.. just maybe, Rex isn't going anywhere next season. If he was truly a lame duck, why would you risk success (coincidentally) at the moment the schedule lightens up?  :noclue: Think about it.. if Geno all-of-a-sudden blows up, and starts playing awesome football, how can you get rid of Mornhinweg? If the Jets fire Rex, he won't be the only one going, while all the coordinators remain. They will all go out the door with him. Will they really risk having Geno Smith learn a new offense, when he JUST NOW seems to be finally getting acclimated to MM's? --my point-- Why would you risk all of this success, if Rex was really going to be inevitably fired?


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Posted 18 October 2014 - 09:53 AM

Now with Decker, Harvin, Kerley, and Amaro/Cumberland.. I can say for the first time in a long time the Jets receiving corps are above average.

 

I'd argue that it's been about 5 years (Tone, Bray & J`Co) since we've had WR's like this.

..the timing of this trade is what strikes me the most. It's almost like the front office said: "Look.. with the exception of San Diego, we've been in every one of these games. We've had leads in every game. We're losing by 1 possession. Let's see what happens if we add a player like Percy at the exact moment we're going up against QB's like Orton, Bridgewater, Tannehill, Locker\Whitehurst, etc."

 

You have to admit 7, the defenses we've been going up against have all been Top 10. We put up 61 points against the Pats, Broncos, and Lions (statistically the 7th, 4th & 1st best defenses in the league) without Harvin or a 100% Decker. The addition to a guy like Harvin, coupled with NOT having to go up against QB's like: Rodgers, Rivers, Brady, Cutler, Peyton, etc.. could be a 4-5 point swing going forward. I'm not saying we'll go on this magically 9-0 run and make the playoffs. But after a 1-6 start, I would say a 7-9, 8-8 record to end the year would be an enormous success.


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Posted 19 October 2014 - 01:08 PM

Broadway Brett the Jet, had some ringing comments to say about Percy Harvin for Jet fans.. :thumbsup:

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/10/19/favre-says-playing-with-percy-harvin-was-great/

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000412876/article/brett-favre-on-his-td-record-falling-i-dont-really-care

 

"I was surprised that trade happened, [Harvin to the Jets] to be honest with you. I have no idea why it happened. Percy was a good guy in the locker room. Really quiet, kept to himself. You know, he had a migraine issue, so.. I don't really know where that is. But I'm really not at a position to make many comments because I don't know other than what my dealings were with Percy, and they were great. I thought he was an outstanding player. The New York media may try to pick him apart over there. How he will react to that, I have no idea. You know, I would be assuming anything. But, hopefully they will protect him a little bit as he transitions into the rest of this season, and he can just play. That's going to be easier said than done. He can be a little combative, but I say that in a good way. Percy's all about doing whatever he can to help the team win, and he is tough as nails. And, really, that's all he cares about. So if you start picking him apart.. I don't want to say he can turn against you.. but. He's just tough. I really liked him as a player and as a person." -- Brett Favre

 

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 08:01 AM

Jets resign J`Kerl to a very cap-friendly 4 year ext. Very pleased with this move.

 

EDIT: --seemingly out of nowhere, all of a sudden Idzik is spending money. I wonder why? :giggle:  :whistling:


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 11:11 PM

Jets resign J`Kerl to a very cap-friendly 4 year ext. Very pleased with this move.

 

EDIT: --seemingly out of nowhere, all of a sudden Idzik is spending money. I wonder why? :giggle:  :whistling:

 

Yea I like Kerley, I think Jalen Saunders was supposed to be his cheap replacement but we all know how that turned out

 

Seems like somebody roused Idzik from his slumber this week. I think Woody read him the riot act this week.


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Posted 23 October 2014 - 08:23 AM

Yea I like Kerley, I think Jalen Saunders was supposed to be his cheap replacement but we all know how that turned out
Seems like somebody roused Idzik from his slumber this week. I think Woody read him the riot act this week.

 

The greatest thing about it is: Percy is still only 26 years old. Couple that with J`Kerl who's 25, and Decker who's 27, the Jets have a nice young core going forward.

I always used to say; a big part in what killed Sanchez's development was the shuffle the Jeta did by replacing guys like Cotchery, B. Smith.. with Plaxico & Mason, etc. I kinda see the same thing happening with Geno. He began his rookie camp with players like: Braylon Edwards, Kellen Winslow, and Santonio Holmes. He started 2013 with: Ryan Spadola, Jeremy Kerley & Clyde Gates.. and ended the season with: David Nelson, Josh Cribbs, Jeff Cumberland & Stephen Hill. Then 2014 starts with Hill getting cut, and (eventually) Nelson aswell. He has two new toys in Eric Decker & Jacoby Ford. Ford gets cut. Mike Goodson & Tommy Bohanon, are replaced with John Conner & CJ2K. And by the end of October, we're looking at: Percy Harvin, TJ Graham, Greg Salas & Jace Amaro. Meanwhile he's had anyone from: Mark Sanchez, Matt Simms, Brady Quinn, Greg McElroy, David Garrard, and Michael Vick.. all in his ear. With the exceptions of Chris Ivory & Bilal Powell, there's an awful lot of flux around this kid. It's got to stop. Good QB's build chemistry with their receivers. They have the same backups, the same WR's, the same coordinators, year after year.

If the Jets insist that Geno is the future, then they need to build a long-lasting nucleus of players around him.


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Posted 23 October 2014 - 12:07 PM

The greatest thing about it is: Percy is still only 26 years old. Couple that with J`Kerl who's 25, and Decker who's 27, the Jets have a nice young core going forward.

I always used to say; a big part in what killed Sanchez's development was the shuffle the Jeta did by replacing guys like Cotchery, B. Smith.. with Plaxico & Mason, etc. I kinda see the same thing happening with Geno. He began his rookie camp with players like: Braylon Edwards, Kellen Winslow, and Santonio Holmes. He started 2013 with: Ryan Spadola, Jeremy Kerley & Clyde Gates.. and ended the season with: David Nelson, Josh Cribbs, Jeff Cumberland & Stephen Hill. Then 2014 starts with Hill getting cut, and (eventually) Nelson aswell. He has two new toys in Eric Decker & Jacoby Ford. Ford gets cut. Mike Goodson & Tommy Bohanon, are replaced with John Conner & CJ2K. And by the end of October, we're looking at: Percy Harvin, TJ Graham, Greg Salas & Jace Amaro. Meanwhile he's had anyone from: Mark Sanchez, Matt Simms, Brady Quinn, Greg McElroy, David Garrard, and Michael Vick.. all in his ear. With the exceptions of Chris Ivory & Bilal Powell, there's an awful lot of flux around this kid. It's got to stop. Good QB's build chemistry with their receivers. They have the same backups, the same WR's, the same coordinators, year after year.

If the Jets insist that Geno is the future, then they need to build a long-lasting nucleus of players around him.

 

True, we are finally building a core of wide receivers where in the past it was simply a revolving door of questionable talent and motivation.

 

Sanchez did best when he had that redzone jump ball threat. Plaxico...I think Geno may have one in Amaro but the guy he needed was Kelvin Benjamin. Still I'd like to see this Harvin-Decker-Kerley-Amaro core stick around for a while, but I'm not 100% certain the Jets see Geno as the future. These last 9 weeks will be what prove that. And I don't think they want to start over in the draft. They may attempt to work out a trade for an established QB.

 

fyi...I heard Favre just mentioned he was still getting calls from teams LAST YEAR to come back and play QB. How crazy is that.


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Posted 23 October 2014 - 12:50 PM

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