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Posted 25 August 2014 - 02:17 PM

Well, Brady had his worst season in a while last year stat wise. His qb rating has been in a steady decline since 2010. But he is still miles ahead of what we've got (or Buffalo)

 

I don't know what to expect out of NE this year. They may well be in the Super Bowl again. They have a renewed focus on defense, but they're very "win now" when it comes to the ages of guys like Wilfork, Mankins, and Connolly. And who know what Revis is planning after this season. But I don't think in the NFL you can predict 3 years down the road. Except for Buffalo, I have no faith in anything they do.

 

The QB rating thing is tricky...the first year of that four-year period (36 TD and 4 INT) was based on good fortune...he WAS good that year, but he could've had 8-10 picks easily...opposing DBs dropped some easy INTs.  Last season, he and his receivers clearly weren't on the same page.  His QB rating was also a LOT higher with Gronk in the lineup.  But a guy in a late-30s can't be considered a lock to continue to perform...I don't care who he is. 

 

And yes, they are in full win-now mode.  That was shown conclusively when they brought in Revis. 


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Posted 25 August 2014 - 03:27 PM

He's back with them. I have a friend who works for the Jets who said it was some sort of anxiety/panic attack...but who knows

 

Rumor monger Manish Mehta is intimating he (Patterson) went AWOL cause he was annoyed at dropping on the depth chart.  Not that I trust Mehta but if that's true there shouldn't even be any debate about cutting him.


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Posted 25 August 2014 - 03:28 PM

The QB rating thing is tricky...the first year of that four-year period (36 TD and 4 INT) was based on good fortune...he WAS good that year, but he could've had 8-10 picks easily...opposing DBs dropped some easy INTs.  Last season, he and his receivers clearly weren't on the same page.  His QB rating was also a LOT higher with Gronk in the lineup.  But a guy in a late-30s can't be considered a lock to continue to perform...I don't care who he is. 

 

And yes, they are in full win-now mode.  That was shown conclusively when they brought in Revis. 

 

I know it's not fashionable to say this in the stat obsessed world these days, but the great QBs will win a lot of games in every season until they can't.  (This is different from the number of Super Bowl wins, which has a much more significant luck factor).   Brady (and Belichek) led teams, as far back as I can remember, are always good for at least ten wins regardless of who is on the roster at any given time.  So until Brady physically starts to decline in a signficant way, I see no reason why that won't continue.   Then the question becomes is whether you think any other team in the AFC East is at least a ten win (or more likely eleven) team, which is what it would take to at least have the same record as the Patriots without regard to tie breakers.  I just don't see it.  I expect the Dolphins to go 7-9.  With a few significant injuries, they could be as bad as 5-11.  I don't know enough to make a prediction for the Jets and Bills, except to say that I think ten wins for either of them is a stretch.

 

Otherwise, the thing that sucks about rooting against the Patriots is that they're always a win now team. 


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Posted Yesterday, 09:50 AM

I would say I'm mostly sold on Geno. I like his work ethic, he's supposedly a very heavy student of the game when it comes to homework and film prep. He can make all the throws, he can run it, he's read defenses much better this pre-season.

 

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Try as hard as I can to WANT to like Geno.. I just can't get past these 3 games in-a-row from last season. The organization really needs to explain wtf happened.. and "rookie brain fart" just ain't gonna cut for me.

If he was dealing with some family\personal issue, fine. If he was playing hurt or through some undisclosed injury, that's fine too. But you got to tell me something.. anything, besides "just a bad stretch" of weeks. There are bad games in the NFL.. and then there are REALLY BAD GAMES. These games were putrid.. the worst performance I've ever seen by a QB in my entire life. (not withstanding, we finished 8-8.. really makes you think what might have been with this team)

 

I'm just very concerned seeing a string of games that bad boomerang back from GS.

 

Apparently Samuel is a long shot to be signed because of age.. and asking price.

 

..the only thing I can think of is that Idzik is waiting on a trade, and\or a Champ Bailey player being cut after this weekend. If neither happens.. I will be extremely upset if the Jets don't go out and sign SOMEONE. You got proven players like Asante Samuel & Quinton Jammer out there available with 20+ million to spend.. and you ain't gonna bring one of them in?!? Unacceptable.. sorry. 


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Posted Yesterday, 11:13 AM

Oh yea. That stretch was repulsive and I was openly questioning his ability to play the game at this level back then. 

 

Something HAS to happen or else Idzik is going to really feel the heat. We're playing Manning, Brady (x2) Rodgers, Stafford, Cutler this year. Guys like Marshall and Jeffrey will get 200 yards apiece on us if we don't at least try to patchwork this secondary available. I know he's been criticized at moving at a glacial pace with little urgency...but if he doesn't pick up at least 1 guy (I would go for 2) it would be gross negligence.


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Posted Yesterday, 12:31 PM

Something HAS to happen or else Idzik is going to really feel the heat. We're playing Manning, Brady (x2) Rodgers, Stafford, Cutler this year. Guys like Marshall and Jeffrey will get 200 yards apiece on us if we don't at least try to patchwork this secondary available. I know he's been criticized at moving at a glacial pace with little urgency...but if he doesn't pick up at least 1 guy (I would go for 2) it would be gross negligence.

problem is everyone thats avail is very old. jammer and sameul are both in wheelchairs. the jets would be better off giving a young kid a shot


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Posted Yesterday, 02:53 PM

Oh yea. That stretch was repulsive and I was openly questioning his ability to play the game at this level back then. 

 

Something HAS to happen or else Idzik is going to really feel the heat. We're playing Manning, Brady (x2) Rodgers, Stafford, Cutler this year. Guys like Marshall and Jeffrey will get 200 yards apiece on us if we don't at least try to patchwork this secondary available. I know he's been criticized at moving at a glacial pace with little urgency...but if he doesn't pick up at least 1 guy (I would go for 2) it would be gross negligence.

 

On the Jets board I sometimes post on/lurk they keep harping on rollover cap money and how the Jets need to save cap space to re-up Mo and others.  Problem I have with this rationale is the Jets were supposedly in on every corner known to man and came up short, it's not like saving cap space was the only reason they didn't go sign someone.  They didn't even bring in patchwork vets like Flowers or Samuel.


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Posted Yesterday, 02:56 PM

problem is everyone thats avail is very old. jammer and sameul are both in wheelchairs. the jets would be better off giving a young kid a shot

 

Last season, the Jets signed fan-favorite Braylon Edwards to a 1 yr *prove it* contract. He was enthusiastic at the opportunity to play with rookie Geno Smith, and help the young player get more acclimated to the NFL. Braylon was sharp, he was motivated. He came in 18 pounds lighter to be a quicker, more elusive player. Yet despite the fact that he had a great training camp and an impressive preseason.. Braylon never got the chance to prove it, due to a “youth movement” the Jets opted to go with instead. On cut day, the Jets front office explained to their fans why it made more sense to go with players like: Ryan Spadola, Clyde Gates, and Stephen Hill.. and thus, Braylon was released. The result? -- Ryan Spadola, Clyde Gates, and Stephen Hill COMBINED for: 468 yrds & 1 TD last season.

By the time Tuesday morning rolls around, all 3 players will be unemployed UFA’s this season (take that to the bank) and seem bound for wonderful career(s) in the CFL. I’m not certain how well Braylon Edwards would have done had he made the cut on the 2013 New York Jets. But something tells me he would’ve had at least one touchdown pass. :thumbsup: 

..the point! 10x out of 10.. I’ll take the experienced veteran, playing with a gigantic chip on his shoulder who has something to prove.. over the doe eye’d rookie, who looks great against 3rd stringers in the preseason.. but is in over his head when the real lights are on.


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