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#21 ZeroGravityFat

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 02:10 PM

he is a pretty sh!t coach, his pp coaching for us was atrocious, i was laughing when the caps picked him up cos he's such a great player so clearly he's a great coach. 


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Posted 27 April 2014 - 03:35 PM

Bring Oates back.  Our PP needs him!


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Posted 27 April 2014 - 03:58 PM

Bring Oates back.  Our PP needs him!

 

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 05:39 PM

yea our pp was way too successful, we need oates to bring it back down


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Posted 27 April 2014 - 07:49 PM

I like Oates as a coach, he got the most out of this caps roster that he could, the team just isn't very good and unfortunately for him they finally moved to a competitive division. But I'm assuming there will be no spot for him on our bench and Barr will return.

McPhee in some kind of Asst GM transition to next GM role here is a possibility. McPhee is a big believer in building through the draft and how important it is in maintaining that pipeline. Doesn't have the best reputation on free agency situations or relationships with players or agents, but he'd be a strong candidate if ownership is interested in having another Lou type with some subtle changes over the short term that need to be implemented.

I really hope you're not actually advocating for McPhee here, he's been one of the worst gms in the league over the past decade and the only thing that's helped him has been the no-brainer draft of ovechkin, you say he's built through the draft- well yeah it's easy to say that when he takes ovechkin backstrom and alzner with top 5 picks in 3 consecutive years.

Also I have no idea how you view Lou lamiorellio as a "subtle change" type of guy. Have we been watching the same gm work over the past 2 decades? Nothing can be further from the truth...
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Posted 28 April 2014 - 06:59 AM

Don't love this firing. The Capitals are a pretty average team. They fired Boudreau who is a pretty good NHL coach. Now after one full season with one training camp, the owner dumps Oates. A bit too early. Maybe Oates and Ovie didn't see eye to eye, and this is Leonsis sucking up to his superstar. That I could understand.

 

McPhee...that was a given.

 

I'm not 100% sure, but from what I've heard/read, Ovi really liked Oates.


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Posted 28 April 2014 - 11:27 AM

he is a pretty sh!t coach, his pp coaching for us was atrocious, i was laughing when the caps picked him up cos he's such a great player so clearly he's a great coach. 

 

Dead on.    I was glad he left here and he brought NOTHING to the table.


I'm not 100% sure, but from what I've heard/read, Ovi really liked Oates.

 

Maybe that was the problem.  There were several Caps players that demanded a trade because of Oates.


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Posted 28 April 2014 - 11:46 AM

Dead on.    I was glad he left here and he brought NOTHING to the table.


 

Maybe that was the problem.  There were several Caps players that demanded a trade because of Oates.

 

Though with Oates our guys were at least decent on faceoffs.  Since then (and even for many years before him) Devils were/are totally inept at them.


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Posted 28 April 2014 - 11:59 AM

A lot of analysis, both quantitative and anecdotal, suggested that Oates was an awful head coach.


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Posted 28 April 2014 - 12:10 PM

Can we get him to be our face-off coach? I remember Zajac taking big leaps in that area of the game. Of course that might just be a selective memory.


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Posted 28 April 2014 - 02:01 PM

any chance he comes back to NJ as an assistant??
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Posted 29 April 2014 - 11:01 AM

Florida fired their coach today too.
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Posted 29 April 2014 - 11:13 AM

Can we get him to be our face-off coach? I remember Zajac taking big leaps in that area of the game. Of course that might just be a selective memory.

 

Team faceoff numbers:

2011/12: 47.1% (last season with Oates)

2012/13: 48.2% 

2013/14: 47.0


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Posted 02 May 2014 - 08:24 AM

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 08:29 AM

Dead on.    I was glad he left here and he brought NOTHING to the table.


 

Maybe that was the problem.  There were several Caps players that demanded a trade because of Oates.

I cannot believe how we started out from the exact same place and now in times of struggle we're just so far apart.  Talk about a dead-fish change up...


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Posted 02 May 2014 - 12:53 PM

Team faceoff numbers:

2011/12: 47.1% (last season with Oates)

2012/13: 48.2% 

2013/14: 47.0

 

Zajac improved at faceoffs big time under Oates. I don't know if we can attribute that to his coaching, but it happened.


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Posted 02 May 2014 - 01:00 PM

Zajac improved at faceoffs big time under Oates. I don't know if we can attribute that to his coaching, but it happened.

 

He went from 52% pre-Oates to peak at 57% last year and now down to 55%. I'd be wary to read too much into the stats, since FO wins has so much to do with the wingers, but I tend to agree that Oates helped make him better at the dot. 


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Posted 02 May 2014 - 01:19 PM

He went from 52% pre-Oates to peak at 57% last year and now down to 55%. I'd be wary to read too much into the stats, since FO wins has so much to do with the wingers, but I tend to agree that Oates helped make him better at the dot. 

 

Again, I am not necessarily attributing his coaching to the improvement. However, in 2010-11 Zajac was one of the best in the league, especially in the first 55-60% of the season. He did fall off a bit after that though. Additionally, the 52% to 57% is a really solid jump, especially for a player who takes 1000+ faceoffs a year.


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Posted 02 May 2014 - 05:57 PM

Well on the plus side at least he can get the band back together with his brother John.


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Posted 03 May 2014 - 01:58 PM

I hope you're joking

 

My stupid phone didn't post the "eyeroll" picture I wanted it to..  But yes, I was being sarcastic..


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