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#461 CarpathianForest

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 01:16 PM

Derek Roy has been signed by Nashville


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Posted 15 July 2014 - 01:23 PM

Nashville is looking very strong.  They are in great shape with their offseason changes.  Add Neal, Ribero, and Roy.  They're going to be an interesting team to watch, along with Tampa


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Posted 15 July 2014 - 01:41 PM

Roy on  a 1 year, $1 mill contract is a great deal.  would've liked to see him in NJ for that price


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Posted 15 July 2014 - 08:44 PM

Roy on a 1 year, $1 mill contract is a great deal. would've liked to see him in NJ for that price


I'd have paid him double that to be our 3C. We just have too many forwards to be signing more though.
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Posted 16 July 2014 - 12:24 PM

Lombardi to the Rag$ (played in Swiss League last year)          http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/


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Posted 16 July 2014 - 12:38 PM

Nashville is looking very strong.  They are in great shape with their offseason changes.  Add Neal, Ribero, and Roy.  They're going to be an interesting team to watch, along with Tampa

 

Seriously? They gave up two solid players to get Neal, who will be Malkin-less now. Mike Fisher might miss a ton of time. Who knows what you can expect from Ribeiro. Derek Roy is pretty nice low cost addition, but that was a player they needed with the uncertainty of Fisher. He's not going to be able to replace him.


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Posted 16 July 2014 - 12:49 PM

I'd have paid him double that to be our 3C. We just have too many forwards to be signing more though.

 

I'd be fine with something similar to that.  With Gionta signed and Josefson still in the mix, it wasn't going to happen. I've made my opinion known about Gionta and would have loved for the Devils to have signed Roy, and let Josefson have the Gionta role. My ideal 4th line has Zubrus-Josefson-Sislo. That's a really nice NHL 4th line in my opinion. Instead, you might get none of those players.


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Posted 16 July 2014 - 01:08 PM

I'd be fine with something similar to that. With Gionta signed and Josefson still in the mix, it wasn't going to happen. I've made my opinion known about Gionta and would have loved for the Devils to have signed Roy, and let Josefson have the Gionta role. My ideal 4th line has Zubrus-Josefson-Sislo. That's a really nice NHL 4th line in my opinion. Instead, you might get none of those players.


Agreed. There's gotta be a trade coming to free up space, but we had been saying that about the defense for a few years until Volch got bought out so we'll see what happens. We all know LL doesn't make deals just to make a deal, there's gotta be value in it for us.
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Posted 16 July 2014 - 01:47 PM

Seriously? They gave up two solid players to get Neal, who will be Malkin-less now. Mike Fisher might miss a ton of time. Who knows what you can expect from Ribeiro. Derek Roy is pretty nice low cost addition, but that was a player they needed with the uncertainty of Fisher. He's not going to be able to replace him.

 

Neal is still a really good player without Malkin.  Spaling is not 'solid'.  I mean I don't think Nashville makes the playoffs, but I think they've made a lot of good low-risk moves this off-season.


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Posted 16 July 2014 - 03:20 PM

Seriously? They gave up two solid players to get Neal, who will be Malkin-less now. Mike Fisher might miss a ton of time. Who knows what you can expect from Ribeiro. Derek Roy is pretty nice low cost addition, but that was a player they needed with the uncertainty of Fisher. He's not going to be able to replace him.

Neal is a 30-40 goal scorer, mix in some youth with Roy and Ribeiro, they'll surprise.  If Ribeiro has really figured out his off-ice issues, you can expect good scoring from him.  Ribeiro and Neal played together in Dallas when Neal was breaking into the league.  Ribeiro is a long way off from reaching that level again that he played at while in Dallas, but he never put up less than 52 points while in Dallas.  I think the two of them can really help each other.  Throw in Roy to play the 2nd line or play wing to Colin Wilson.  Throw in Jokinen(no thanks) and a bunch of the youngsters, this isn't a bad team.  If Rinne stays healthy and the defense takes another step in their development, Nashville will be fine. 

Don't be so fast to write off a team that is run by a very competent GM. 


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Posted 16 July 2014 - 03:36 PM

Neal is a 30-40 goal scorer, mix in some youth with Roy and Ribeiro, they'll surprise.  If Ribeiro has really figured out his off-ice issues, you can expect good scoring from him.  Ribeiro and Neal played together in Dallas when Neal was breaking into the league.  Ribeiro is a long way off from reaching that level again that he played at while in Dallas, but he never put up less than 52 points while in Dallas.  I think the two of them can really help each other.  Throw in Roy to play the 2nd line or play wing to Colin Wilson.  Throw in Jokinen(no thanks) and a bunch of the youngsters, this isn't a bad team.  If Rinne stays healthy and the defense takes another step in their development, Nashville will be fine. 

Don't be so fast to write off a team that is run by a very competent GM. 

 

There were some nice moves. I just don't think enough was done for them to take the next step in the West. There are very few 40-goal scorers in the NHL. Don't expect Neal to ever reach 40 again. You never know, but not sure they got that much better. 

 

Tri, I definitely categorized two different guys together which was silly. 


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Posted 16 July 2014 - 03:41 PM

The preds made some nice moves but they're problem is the brutal division. It's gonna be tough competing with those teams.
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Posted 16 July 2014 - 03:51 PM

Agreed. There's gotta be a trade coming to free up space, but we had been saying that about the defense for a few years until Volch got bought out so we'll see what happens. We all know LL doesn't make deals just to make a deal, there's gotta be value in it for us.

well the argument there is Tallinder.  that move was clearly to make room, and you can't say we got any value in return. i believe that is an example where he made a deal just to make a deal


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Posted 16 July 2014 - 04:03 PM

There were some nice moves. I just don't think enough was done for them to take the next step in the West. There are very few 40-goal scorers in the NHL. Don't expect Neal to ever reach 40 again. You never know, but not sure they got that much better. 

 

Tri, I definitely categorized two different guys together which was silly. 

 

 

The preds made some nice moves but they're problem is the brutal division. It's gonna be tough competing with those teams.

Fair enough, I did say that they were looking very strong.  I can amend that and say they are looking like they could at least compete.  The West in general is just brutal to be a part of right now.  I'm hoping it starts to balance itself out, but I'm not holding my breath with the league divided the way it is right now.  Hopefully they bring in a new NHL team or two, which I know has been rumored.  The problem with that is that any expansion teams that might be brought in are going to struggle for years, especially being in the West. 


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Posted 16 July 2014 - 10:08 PM

Always been a fan of Nashville, but they would aren't making the playoffs in the that brtual west, seems the west dominants in every sport. In the east, i can see Nashville making it.
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Posted 17 July 2014 - 12:24 AM

well the argument there is Tallinder. that move was clearly to make room, and you can't say we got any value in return. i believe that is an example where he made a deal just to make a deal


True, but at that point Tallinder didn't have much value around the league due to him being injured recently and not being much of a point producer. I also think he wanted out after kinda being the odd man out in the 8 man rotation on defense. So while it was a move to make room, I don't really know how much more could have been expected from a trade and keeping him wasn't giving us much value either.

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Posted 17 July 2014 - 06:14 AM

There were some nice moves. I just don't think enough was done for them to take the next step in the West. There are very few 40-goal scorers in the NHL. Don't expect Neal to ever reach 40 again. You never know, but not sure they got that much better. 

 

Tri, I definitely categorized two different guys together which was silly. 

I'm one of those that feels you never sign a player with the intention of trading him. But these are 1 yr (reasonable) contracts, and in the event that Ribeiro/Roy put up good numbers, and they're out of the playoff picture, they could be nice "moveable" asset. Then again, if they play well, they could earn extensions. I think Ribeiro couldn't play in Tippet's system, and might just flourish under Lavi?


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Posted 18 July 2014 - 08:42 AM

Seriously? They gave up two solid players to get Neal, who will be Malkin-less now. Mike Fisher might miss a ton of time. Who knows what you can expect from Ribeiro. Derek Roy is pretty nice low cost addition, but that was a player they needed with the uncertainty of Fisher. He's not going to be able to replace him.


Neal was a pretty good goal scorer before he was traded to Pittsburgh. He will likely see a drop in his production, but it might not be that much. Otherwise, I agree with what you said here.
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Posted 18 July 2014 - 02:45 PM

Neal is still a really good player without Malkin.  Spaling is not 'solid'.  I mean I don't think Nashville makes the playoffs, but I think they've made a lot of good low-risk moves this off-season.

 

Kunitz and Neal could never get real credits cause they always got the "well they play with malkin/crosby" but if you look at those guys play. They scored a lot of their goals by themselves , they both are snipers who can scored from anywhere.


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Posted 19 July 2014 - 07:36 PM

Kunitz and Neal could never get real credits cause they always got the "well they play with malkin/crosby" but if you look at those guys play. They scored a lot of their goals by themselves , they both are snipers who can scored from anywhere.

 

Kunitz was a PPG player with Anaheim several seasons in a row so that's selling him a bit short. I think most people just assumed he was over the hill, but nothing can invigorate a career like playing with mr Crosby. 


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