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#21 dmann422

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Posted 09 June 2014 - 07:49 AM

My First thought is maybe this is just a story from the kovy camp to test the waters and see if it's possible for him to make a return without sitting out a whole year.

Part of me feels bad for kovy at this point, I'm sure he was pressured into going back to Russia by his advisors, and when he spoke to Lou there wasn't much disagreement from the devils side (perhaps even encouragement to get out of the contract). Now he's at a point where he can't win either way.
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Posted 09 June 2014 - 07:55 AM

If he does come back here, I'm convinced that his initial departure was collusion to get the Devils out of that contract.

 

..me too. In my head, I keep imagining this scene where Lou tells Kovy to go away, much like when Michael Corleone said goodbye to his family before fleeing to Italy.

 

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..between all this Kovy drama since we traded for him, and the Brodeur fiasco.. Lamoriello is really sitting on a gold-mine, in the form of a tell all autobiography.


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Posted 09 June 2014 - 07:58 AM

id take a 31-32 years old Kovy over quiiiiiiiite a few guys on the Devils. He fvcked us over but we need to score goals and he kind of does that

 

at least he can score in shootouts


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Posted 09 June 2014 - 08:23 AM

Nothing surprises me with Kovy. Remember all those whispers we used to hear about him wanting to stay in russia. We thought this couldn't be true...but it was. 

 

Now this. 

 

He's still going to cost a pretty penny. Not anything like his old contract, but something that's going to be a burden for this team moving forward. Kovalchuk is 31 and on the decline. We need to move on from this. 


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Posted 09 June 2014 - 08:30 AM

Nothing surprises me with Kovy. Remember all those whispers we used to hear about him wanting to stay in russia. We thought this couldn't be true...but it was.

Now this.

He's still going to cost a pretty penny. Not anything like his old contract, but something that's going to be a burden for this team moving forward. Kovalchuk is 31 and on the decline. We need to move on from this.


I guess the big difference now is that the Devils have all of the bargaining power (this is assuming the report that the Devils exclusively control his ability to come back after a year).

If he really felt going to the KHL was a mistake and wants back in to the NHL while he still has some speed left in him, the Devils could bring him back on relatively reasonable terms.

This really seems like click bait for Costa, but again the Kovy experience just gets weirder and weirder.


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Posted 09 June 2014 - 08:37 AM

where do i sign


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Posted 09 June 2014 - 08:39 AM

If he does come back here, I'll be convinced that his initial departure was collusion to get the Devils out of that contract.

 

THIS ^^^ I could see plenty of GMs angry at Lou about this, and who could blame them?


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Posted 09 June 2014 - 08:40 AM

I guess the big difference now is that the Devils have all of the bargaining power (this is assuming the report that the Devils exclusively control his ability to come back after a year).

If he really felt going to the KHL was a mistake and wants back in to the NHL while he still has some speed left in him, the Devils could bring him back on relatively reasonable terms.

This really seems like click bait for Costa, but again the Kovy experience just gets weirder and weirder.


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Dacosta actually devoted two tweets to this. So he's pretty firm about it.

 

But I have a hard time believing it. We need to hear from some of the truly connected NHL guys first.


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Posted 09 June 2014 - 08:41 AM

although I'm sure this is no truth behind this rumor, you would be an idiot not welcome him back to this team over hurt feelings.


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Posted 09 June 2014 - 08:46 AM

although I'm sure this is no truth behind this rumor, you would be an idiot not welcome him back to this team over hurt feelings.

 

No, we'd be idiots to welcome him back because he's not the Kovy of old.  When he's not scoring nearly 40 goals per season, the warts in his game (which he did work on while he was here, with some success) will become that much more apparent.

 

Tri has posted in great detail why he's really not that good...even in 2011-12, when we'd all agree that he was good, he needed a hell of a lot of minutes to get his numbers.  I think if he came back, there would be a lot of disappointment...and as we've seen in the past, Kovy is not exactly thick-skinned.  I could see him struggling for 40-50 games (think 12 goals and a lot of defensive gaffes), then saying "the hell with this!"


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Posted 09 June 2014 - 08:48 AM

Lou has said before he doesn't hold grudges and I don't even think he left the Devils on bad terms. I would welcome him back immeditately because with him were probably a playoff team this past year and don't have Clowe's contract on the books.


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Posted 09 June 2014 - 08:52 AM

He fvcked us over 

 

I understand this line of thinking, but at the same time I think it's too easy to think this way. It's easy to say he screwed us over, but at the same time we've gotten the pick we were to lose returned (albeit lower) and the fine has been cut in half. The biggest problem Kovy caused IMO is that his being signed could've potentially cost us Parise, but even there there's plenty of conjecture stating that his agents talked him into going to FA and its also possible he (Parise) wanted to leave + the contract was offered to Kovy in the first place so IMO that blame falls more to management.

 

The fact is we don't really know anything about the circumstances surrounding Kovalchuk. Is it that big of a stretch to think that Lou went to him and tossed the idea of Russia around to get out from under the contract? A buyout would've been ridiculously costly and its not a longshot to think that trading that contract would've been extremely hard. It's quite possible Kovalchuk's contract was a sticking point in respect to new ownership and we certainly got new ownership shortly after Kovy left. It almost seems too perfect. Lou did not give up the pick the year we took Matteau for a reason, its quite possible he knew that he was going to be able to get out of the jam even then or at least saw a way to get out of it.

 

I don't think anything is clear cut in this story and we may never know what really caused it all to happen. I certainly don't have a high opinion of Kovy simply because that's the natural/kneejerk reaction I have as a fan of this team, but at the same time I find it hard to believe that the story we've been given is wholly true. 

 

From the perspective of just hockey, I'm absolutely fine with Kovy returning provided (as with almost any player) the price and terms are right. 


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Posted 09 June 2014 - 08:54 AM

This would be Lou going to the Ex Devil well again, another thing that I'd hoped he'd be over at this point. No Kovalchuk, no Gionta...Stastny please


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Posted 09 June 2014 - 08:58 AM

This would be Lou going to the Ex Devil well again, another thing that I'd hoped he'd be over at this point. No Kovalchuk, no Gionta...Stastny please

 

If by the end of the summer we are left with Kovy and Brian Gionta signed, Cory without an extension and no Stastny I think my head will explode like that guy in Scanners.


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Posted 09 June 2014 - 08:59 AM

Forgetting the hypotheticals...just addressing the legitimacy of the rumour:

 

This guy says he has a credible source in NJ. Has he ever reported any accurate Devils rumours let alone inaccurate Devils rumours. Any leaks about deals or contracts have always come from a players agent. If Lou was even in discussions with Kovalchuk and Grossman, the only one from NJ who probably knows about the talks is Lou himself.

 

So I am going with 100% bullsheeeeeet.


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Posted 09 June 2014 - 09:05 AM

No, we'd be idiots to welcome him back because he's not the Kovy of old.  When he's not scoring nearly 40 goals per season, the warts in his game (which he did work on while he was here, with some success) will become that much more apparent.

 

Tri has posted in great detail why he's really not that good...even in 2011-12, when we'd all agree that he was good, he needed a hell of a lot of minutes to get his numbers.  I think if he came back, there would be a lot of disappointment...and as we've seen in the past, Kovy is not exactly thick-skinned.  I could see him struggling for 40-50 games (think 12 goals and a lot of defensive gaffes), then saying "the hell with this!"

Have to consider the term, CR. I think if he comes back, it would be to a modest "show me" contract. No one is going to feel safe giving him over five years with his injuries let alone the departure threat. 

 

If Kovalchuk does want to come back, I could see a case where the league allows him to solely based on showing that the KHL is a second rate league. It could really become an example of "what not to do". While many might be pissed at him for leaving, him wanting to come back would be very good for the NHL in the NHL-KHL pr battle.


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Posted 09 June 2014 - 09:05 AM

Forgetting the hypotheticals...just addressing the legitimacy of the rumour:

 

This guy says he has a credible source in NJ. Has he ever reported any accurate Devils rumours let alone inaccurate Devils rumours. Any leaks about deals or contracts have always come from a players agent. If Lou was even in discussions with Kovalchuk and Grossman, the only one from NJ who probably knows about the talks is Lou himself.

 

So I am going with 100% bullsheeeeeet.

 

He could be hearing it from a loose-lipped contact from Russia. That's where all the Kovalchuk nonsense started.


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Posted 09 June 2014 - 09:08 AM

 While many might be pissed at him for leaving, him wanting to come back would be very good for the NHL in the NHL-KHL pr battle.

 

This is actually a good point, but TG just said that if he wanted to come back this coming season, all 30 teams would unanimously need to OK it. I cannot see every team in the league voting for it regardless of the PR battle. I don't see Snider or Dolan siding with the Devils. 


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Posted 09 June 2014 - 09:18 AM

This is actually a good point, but TG just said that if he wanted to come back this coming season, all 30 teams would unanimously need to OK it. I cannot see every team in the league voting for it regardless of the PR battle. I don't see Snider or Dolan siding with the Devils. 

 

it's a two way street though. If they block the devils, sometime in the future the devils may block them from acquiring, or reacquiring a player overseas that they like.


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Posted 09 June 2014 - 09:19 AM

if there was a conspiracy, the NHL could be involved as the Devils were almost run by the League.


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