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Trade: Hartnell to CBJ for Umberger and a 4th


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#61 hystyk28

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 07:41 PM

Don't make me laugh, a fresh start? He is not someone that strikes me as someone who needs a fresh start, he's 21 for christ sakes and an RFA. Steve Mason needed a fresh start. Jason Spezza maybe needs a new start, but a 21-year old still developing defensemen?? No way.

Colin White was 23 when he broke into the league. Paul Martin, 23. There are other examples as well who are not Devils, I guess Hedman from Tampa.

Well, if you don't think he has soured on his situation then I don't know what to tell you. Please don't cite press blurbs where everyone just tows the line. He is young and I am sure feels slighted by being buried in the AHL. Let's not forget about the money he isn't making while down there. Yeah, I have a feeling a fresh start would be greeted with open arms, especially if it meant he could be making 70 foot passes to Patrick Kane for 15 assists a year.

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#62 CarpathianForest

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 07:48 PM

I have to be inclined with hystyk28 here. Larsson has to feel a bit slighted especially due to the fact that Gelinas and Merrill came up last season. Albeit Larsson was on IR, but...


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#63 dmann422

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 07:59 PM

He's not paid like a top line player. He's paid like a 2nd/3rd line guy and that's what he is, and yeah he'll get worse, but Umberger is a much worse player. Why do Philadelphia players need to be put on notice? They've traded a top player on their team in 2 of the last 3 offseasons. If players haven't learned that you can just get traded out of Philadelphia for no real reason, they're kinda thick.

I guess the bottom line is that I wouldn't want to be stuck with hartnell for 2nd line money over the next 5 years. And what I meant by shock to the system was that hartnell was a glue guy on the team and in the lockeroom. In my eyes he's been the epitome of flyers hockey over the past few years. IMO the move just seems like next all wanted to make his mark on the team early. I'm not saying it was a good trade but I personally just don't think it was terrible.
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#64 RizzMB30

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 07:37 AM

Well, if you don't think he has soured on his situation then I don't know what to tell you. Please don't cite press blurbs where everyone just tows the line. He is young and I am sure feels slighted by being buried in the AHL. Let's not forget about the money he isn't making while down there. Yeah, I have a feeling a fresh start would be greeted with open arms, especially if it meant he could be making 70 foot passes to Patrick Kane for 15 assists a year.

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I have to be inclined with hystyk28 here. Larsson has to feel a bit slighted especially due to the fact that Gelinas and Merrill came up last season. Albeit Larsson was on IR, but...

Injuries happen, its a part of the game.  He's 21 freaking years old.  Neither of you have conceded or contested that point.  If he was 2 or 3 years older and in the exact same position as he is currently, then yeah, maybe I'd trade him while he still held some value.  Do you think if he doesn't get hurt that he remains in the NHL all season? Something had to give and Larsson was simply the easiest to move AND he got hurt.  He has NO reason to feel slighted if other defenseman below him out-play him.  Everyone likes to ignore the fact that playing the AHL can be a learning experience for a player that is as young as him.  He can have a chance to be one of the better players on the ice night in and night out.  Larsson has NEVER been sent down to the A for poor play, albeit he's been a healthy scratch a few times for Peter Harrold ( :doh1: ).  He was in the AHL twice, once because of the lockout, and this year due to his injury. 


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Posted 25 June 2014 - 09:16 AM

we should all be watching what unfolds for Larsson this season very closely.  I know he's been injured, but still we've all been confused as to why he hasn't played more in the NHL


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