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#1 Guadana

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 01:27 PM

Nick Kypreos: Patrick Sharp available via trade. Hawks clearing money for Toews/Kane extensions and/or Kesler or Spezza? 

 

 

 

I think Sharp can do everything on ice and he is one of the most underrated chicago player.

What can we trade for him 

and how do you think - do we need in him? (i think - yes)


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 01:29 PM

We don't have anything to trade.


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 01:30 PM

Sharp would be a nice get... Probably won't be cheap though. Plus he's 33.

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 01:32 PM

Sharp is a perfect player you stay away from. He might be a solid complementary piece on a good team for 2 or 3 more seasons, but I don't think you want to be trading a lot for him at the moment.

 

Smart by Chicago to even look this route.


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 01:34 PM

We don't have anything to trade.

 

much young defensmen(leddy`s and oduya`s contracts goes to an end, and theirs next contracts will be higher, but chico needs in money for patrick and johny), next year first pick (our draft picksvalued higher now)

 

bad thing that another teams can give some more


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 01:34 PM

everyone has been saying they wouldnt be interested in him due to his age..
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Posted 24 June 2014 - 01:37 PM

much young defensmen(leddy`s and oduya`s contracts goes to an end, and theirs next contracts will be higher, but chico needs in money for patrick and johny), next year first pick (our draft picksvalued higher now)

 

bad thing that another teams can give some more

 

Total insanity to trade even anything remotely close to a first or one of our young D for Sharp.

Sharp is good but he also played with some of the best players in the league. His production would drop strongly if he came here.


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 01:39 PM

The crazy thing about Chicago is that they really don't have any reason to deal Sharp for prospects - they have young D and forwards coming up.  They're really best served dealing Sharp for a high 1st in this year's draft and calling it a day.


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 01:40 PM

Total insanity to trade even anything remotely close to a first or one of our young D for Sharp.

Sharp is good but he also played with some of the best players in the league. His production would drop strongly if he came here.

 

His production will drop if he came here

but

 

i saw much games of chicago and he did more 

a lot more than his line teammates

in position defense, in attacking creation

 

i think he can give us a lot 

more than clowe or rolston


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 01:41 PM

The crazy thing about Chicago is that they really don't have any reason to deal Sharp for prospects - they have young D and forwards coming up.  They're really best served dealing Sharp for a high 1st in this year's draft and calling it a day.

 

Sharp's not going to fetch a first. Like I wrote above Sharp was pretty average until Toews, Kane, Hossa et al cam on board the roster.

I would suspect a deal like a 3rd to be sufficient. I like Sharp but anything more than that is a little bit crazy.


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 01:43 PM

At the cost of our future. It wont be easy to get him. It will take alot from us which makes it not worth it.

His production will drop if he came here
but

i saw much games of chicago and he did more
a lot more than his line teammates
in position defense, in attacking creation

i think he can give us a lot
more than clowe or rolston


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 01:44 PM

Man I love Sharp, he's my personal favorite player on Chicago, I think he's quietly the best player on their team. But yeah, he'll be on the decline soon. Short of a Lou Lams fleecing, we'd never get him.


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 01:45 PM

His production will drop if he came here

but

 

i saw much games of chicago and he did more 

a lot more than his line teammates

in position defense, in attacking creation

 

i think he can give us a lot 

more than clowe or rolston

 

Rolston doesn't play anymore and when healthy Clowe was a solid player. The problem with Sharp is he will need very strong linemates to be productive. We in all honesty don't have that.


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 01:46 PM

I just wish he wasn't 33.  he'd easily be a 2nd liner on our squad.  his production would dropoff, sure, but he'd still help us no doubt. 

 

at 33 though, i wouldn't want us dealing anything besides a pick and a defenseman.  Id be willing to throw Harrold and our 2nd pick. but no way would i expect Chicago to take it, and no way would i want to see us give more


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 01:48 PM

Sharp's not going to fetch a first. Like I wrote above Sharp was pretty average until Toews, Kane, Hossa et al cam on board the roster.
I would suspect a deal like a 3rd to be sufficient. I like Sharp but anything more than that is a little bit crazy.


Dave Bolland and Cal Clutterbuck brought back a greater return than that, but you weren't dealing with the sharpest knives in the drawer on one side of the equation in those deals.

Without knowing their cap situation, I could see Tampa trading the number 1 they got from the Rangers for this year. That basically turns the St. Louis trade into Patrick Sharp and a first, which is not a bad return at all.


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 01:49 PM

I just wish he wasn't 33.  he'd easily be a 2nd liner on our squad.  his production would dropoff, sure, but he'd still help us no doubt. 

 

at 33 though, i wouldn't want us dealing anything besides a pick and a defenseman.  Id be willing to throw Harrold and our 2nd pick. but no way would i expect Chicago to take it, and no way would i want to see us give more

 

You're not talking about this year's pick.


Dave Bolland and Cal Clutterbuck brought back a greater return than that, but you weren't dealing with the sharpest knives in the drawer on one side of the equation in those deals.

Without knowing their cap situation, I could see Tampa trading the number 1 they got from the Rangers for this year. That basically turns the St. Louis trade into Patrick Sharp and a first, which is not a bad return at all.


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I see that, but Hemsky brought a 3rd and I would prefer him to Sharp.


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 01:51 PM

Dave Bolland and Cal Clutterbuck brought back a greater return than that, but you weren't dealing with the sharpest knives in the drawer on one side of the equation in those deals.

Without knowing their cap situation, I could see Tampa trading the number 1 they got from the Rangers for this year. That basically turns the St. Louis trade into Patrick Sharp and a first, which is not a bad return at all.


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That 1st is not high enough for Patrick Sharp.  It'd have to be something in the 5-15 range.  


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 01:53 PM

Pass.

 

As others have said, perfect complimentary piece.  Bring him here expecting him to lead the offense, and I see him only scoring 20-something.


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 01:54 PM

One other issue: Sharp is signed at 5 mil per season through 16-17. Speaking of Rolston


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 01:56 PM

One other issue: Sharp is signed at 5 mil per season through 16-17. Speaking of Rolston

 

Yeah, so that contract ends when Sharp is 35 years and 6.5 months old - Brian Rolston's UFA contract with the Devils had him playing his first game with NJ at 35 years and 7.5 months old.


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