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#861 Devilsfan118

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 10:28 AM

This is premature, but if Gelinas is being this difficult after 60 games in the NHL - I'd almost be tempted to trade him.


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Posted 12 September 2014 - 10:34 AM

This is premature, but if Gelinas is being this difficult after 60 games in the NHL - I'd almost be tempted to trade him.

It's tough. I bet the Devils are offering him Larsson money at one or two years and Gelinas was statistically one of the most effective dmen in the entire league. True, it was only 60 games and we clearly saw his defensive deficiencies but it's not like his agent has nothing to go on in regards to negotiations 


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Posted 12 September 2014 - 11:10 AM

This is premature, but if Gelinas is being this difficult after 60 games in the NHL - I'd almost be tempted to trade him.

Yeah Gelinas needs to sign on the dotted line already. In the words of Steve Austin- shut up and know your role.

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 11:15 AM

Yeah Gelinas needs to sign on the dotted line already. In the words of Steve Austin- shut up and know your role.

Yeah, I think he's a little too new for this prima donna schtick. I can see him traded even if he signs if he's like this. (also, at the risk of exposing my wrestling nerdism, that was The Rock)


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Posted 12 September 2014 - 11:16 AM

It's tough. I bet the Devils are offering him Larsson money at one or two years and Gelinas was statistically one of the most effective dmen in the entire league. True, it was only 60 games and we clearly saw his defensive deficiencies but it's not like his agent has nothing to go on in regards to negotiations 

 

Ummmm what?


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Posted 12 September 2014 - 11:17 AM

Yeah, I think he's a little too new for this prima donna schtick. I can see him traded even if he signs if he's like this. (also, at the risk of exposing my wrestling nerdism, that was The Rock)

It doesn't help that Gilles Lupien is the agent- he and Lou can't stand each other. And yeah good call, that was The Rock lol.
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Posted 12 September 2014 - 11:19 AM

Ummmm what?



He had the most points/60 on the PP for defenceman in the entire league
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Posted 12 September 2014 - 11:21 AM

It doesn't help that Gilles Lupien is the agent- he and Lou can't stand each other. And yeah good call, that was The Rock lol.

 

Maybe if Lou can get a GM to buy on his offensive numbers and get a decent forward prospect, we can win out.


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Posted 12 September 2014 - 11:27 AM

He had the most points/60 on the PP for defenceman in the entire league

 

That's just on the PP.  You said he was one of the statistically best in the league overall.

 

Or at least that's what I interpreted as you saying.


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Posted 12 September 2014 - 12:05 PM

He had the most points/60 on the PP for defenceman in the entire league


His defensive metrics took away a good deal of that.
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Posted 12 September 2014 - 01:53 PM

If Gelinas isn't there for the first day of camp, this is a problem.  Until then it's just a guy trying to get a decent 2nd contract.


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Posted 12 September 2014 - 02:19 PM

This Gelinas stuff is great news for Damon Severson if he is as close to the NHL as some people are saying.


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Posted 12 September 2014 - 02:27 PM

This Gelinas stuff is great news for Damon Severson if he is as close to the NHL as some people are saying.

 

I think they want to give Severson a year in the minors as it's his first pro year.  There's a reason they brought Kaberle in


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Posted 12 September 2014 - 02:31 PM

If Gelinas isn't there for the first day of camp, this is a problem.  Until then it's just a guy trying to get a decent 2nd contract.

 

This isn't July/August anymore. Rookies are reporting after the weekend and Lupien basically came out two days ago saying Lou is being unreasonable which indicates they aren't close. You're right that it isn't an issue yet, but I think odds are that he is going to miss some time and that is pretty concerning because NJ is counting on Gelinas


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Posted 12 September 2014 - 02:52 PM

This isn't July/August anymore. Rookies are reporting after the weekend and Lupien basically came out two days ago saying Lou is being unreasonable which indicates they aren't close. You're right that it isn't an issue yet, but I think odds are that he is going to miss some time and that is pretty concerning because NJ is counting on Gelinas

 

Lupien going to the press is a desperate move.  He doesn't have many options.  And there's still other guys out - DeKeyser, Krug, Brenden Dillon, Ryan Ellis.  


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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:06 PM

Lupien going to the press is a desperate move.  He doesn't have many options.  And there's still other guys out - DeKeyser, Krug, Brenden Dillon, Ryan Ellis.  

There are holdouts every offseason but I can't remember there being THIS many. I thought the shoe would drop with Schultz and Barrie signing a couple of weeks ago but alas.


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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:14 PM

This isn't July/August anymore. Rookies are reporting after the weekend and Lupien basically came out two days ago saying Lou is being unreasonable which indicates they aren't close. You're right that it isn't an issue yet, but I think odds are that he is going to miss some time and that is pretty concerning because NJ is counting on Gelinas

as Lou always says- when you have time, use it.

I am not worried about the gelinas situation.
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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:21 PM

There is a tiny part of me that is waiting to see this ending up with Gelinas leaving.  Judging by the comments I see on here, other forums and FB group's, a large chunk of the fanbase will lose their sh!t because they see him as the second coming of Al MacInnis.

 

But I hope it works out for the best.


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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:25 PM

This Gelinas stuff is great news for Damon Severson if he is as close to the NHL as some people are saying.

 

Which is also why this is bordering on career suicide for Gelinas.  But hey might as well indulge an agent's twenty-year old grudge.


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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:33 PM

Which is also why this is bordering on career suicide for Gelinas.  But hey might as well indulge an agent's twenty-year old grudge.

 

Was it career suicide for Brendan Morrison, Bill Guerin, Jason Arnott, Petr Sykora, Patrik Elias, Bobby Holik, Scott Niedermayer (twice), etc.?  These players were all already more established.  I listed Morrison first because I think he is the best analogue.


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