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#21 CarpathianForest

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 01:16 PM

This is pretty standard IME - the first wave of moves comes right away, then there is a period of silence for the July 4th weekend, then things heat back up a little bit more.

 

Anyway, no, I wouldn't take any of the free agents. I'd like someone like Winnik but the Devils have Ruutu already.  They've got enough players.  Let's drop the puck already.

 

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 02:19 PM

Did the league shut-down for the summer? There's been dick for news now for almost a week. I understand the holiday weekend, but c'mon...

 

As Triumph pointed out, this is fairly normal. The rush is over. The leverage is all with the teams now and there's no rush bar for the very small # of guys there may be bidding "wars" over.

 

Look at the past few years in July:

 

http://en.wikipedia....HL_transactions

http://en.wikipedia....HL_transactions

 

After UFA Day, things still happen but at a much slower rate. A lot of teams also have their development camps coming up, so may want to see how their prospects are looking before committing another roster spot to an aged vet. 

 

I think this year is a little slower than the past two in terms of volume of movement, but its really nothing new. UFA Day is really a 1 - 1.5 day event at most then lots of execs take their vacations too. 


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Posted 07 July 2014 - 04:24 PM

As Triumph pointed out, this is fairly normal. The rush is over. The leverage is all with the teams now and there's no rush bar for the very small # of guys there may be bidding "wars" over.

 

Look at the past few years in July:

 

http://en.wikipedia....HL_transactions

http://en.wikipedia....HL_transactions

 

After UFA Day, things still happen but at a much slower rate. A lot of teams also have their development camps coming up, so may want to see how their prospects are looking before committing another roster spot to an aged vet. 

 

I think this year is a little slower than the past two in terms of volume of movement, but its really nothing new. UFA Day is really a 1 - 1.5 day event at most then lots of execs take their vacations too. 

 

(According to the wiki links you provided of which I'm not sure of their accuracy) Something is definitely different. 84 signings on day 1 is 20 more than the year before and 34 more than the year before that. Day 2 had 1.5 times as many signings as the year before and 3 times as many as the year before that. This year from days 3-7 of FA we have had about 17 signings. Last year we had 18 on 3-7 but what could be throwing people off here is that the year before that we had 32 signings on days 3-7. So it seems that an irregular amount of first and second day signings combined with a big drop on 3-7 from 2012's 32 signings is what is causing the feelings of abnormality.

 

2014:

 

Day 1: 84 signings

Day 2: 15 signings

Day 3: 8 signings

Day 4: 5 signings

Day 5: 0 signings

Day 6: 1 signing

Day 7: 3 signings (??)

 

2013:

 

Day 1: 64 signings
Day 2: 10 signings
Day 3: 2 signings
Day 4: 7 signings
Day 5: 1 signings
Day 6: 3 signing
Day 7: 5 signings

 

2012: 

 

Day 1: 50 signings

Day 2: 6 signings
Day 3: 11 signings
Day 4: 5 signings
Day 5: 9 signings
Day 6: 5 signing

Day 7: 2 signings


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Posted 07 July 2014 - 05:49 PM

(According to the wiki links you provided of which I'm not sure of their accuracy) Something is definitely different. 84 signings on day 1 is 20 more than the year before and 34 more than the year before that. Day 2 had 1.5 times as many signings as the year before and 3 times as many as the year before that. This year from days 3-7 of FA we have had about 17 signings. Last year we had 18 on 3-7 but what could be throwing people off here is that the year before that we had 32 signings on days 3-7. So it seems that an irregular amount of first and second day signings combined with a big drop on 3-7 from 2012's 32 signings is what is causing the feelings of abnormality.

I'd argue that it's the 5 day discussion period is the cause for these earlier signings.  You stated the effects Neboors, and didn't really name a cause.   That time is invaluable for GMs to make preliminary offers and for agents and GMs to float numbers both ways.  This is how the free agent frenzy will be from now on it seems.  I like it, however I agree with Lou that the timing is bad as it does coincide with the draft.  I don't see why the draft can't be pushed back a little so GM's can focus on one thing at a time.  


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Posted 07 July 2014 - 06:37 PM

I'd argue that it's the 5 day discussion period is the cause for these earlier signings.  You stated the effects Neboors, and didn't really name a cause.   That time is invaluable for GMs to make preliminary offers and for agents and GMs to float numbers both ways.  This is how the free agent frenzy will be from now on it seems.  I like it, however I agree with Lou that the timing is bad as it does coincide with the draft.  I don't see why the draft can't be pushed back a little so GM's can focus on one thing at a time.  

 

You wouldn't want to push back the draft, then it might butt up against the Cup Finals.  I think it makes sense to push free agency forward to July 5 with the talking period beginning on June 30.  


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Posted 07 July 2014 - 07:37 PM

Way to bore the sh!t out of this thread, Guys! Is there any way we can add some stats to this thread?


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Posted 07 July 2014 - 08:54 PM

Way to bore the sh!t out of this thread, Guys! Is there any way we can add some stats to this thread?

 

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 08:59 PM

^LOL SD.

 

 

 

You stated the effects Neboors, and didn't really name a cause.  

 

That's because I have no idea what the cause is and nor do I have a guess at it. Someone could convince me it was just by chance.


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Posted 07 July 2014 - 09:06 PM

Damn SD, that's pretty friggin' funny, nice.


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Posted 07 July 2014 - 09:30 PM

SD - that's really good. I have to think even tri will like that. he's never had an avatar on this board, but i think that might be worthy.


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Posted 07 July 2014 - 10:29 PM

Lmfao, SD that's hilarious.
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Posted 07 July 2014 - 11:08 PM

Okay that's pretty funny, but if Russell Peters is playing Prudential Center, no way I see the beacon because I'm inside enjoying some arena-sized comedy.


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Posted 07 July 2014 - 11:14 PM

Wow SD that was classic
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Posted 08 July 2014 - 02:21 AM

You wouldn't want to push back the draft, then it might butt up against the Cup Finals.  I think it makes sense to push free agency forward to July 5 with the talking period beginning on June 30.  

 

It's not my national holiday but wouldn't league/PA balk at moving it to the day after everyone gets hammered? Then again it's on Canada Day so what do I know.


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Posted 08 July 2014 - 04:31 AM

Way to bore the sh!t out of this thread, Guys! Is there any way we can add some stats to this thread?

Way to contribute meaningful discussion.   :rolleyes:  Strike 2.


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Posted 08 July 2014 - 12:15 PM

Ill be following the situation between the Jackets and Johansen very anxiously. Apparently both sides are very much far apart still.
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Posted 08 July 2014 - 12:22 PM

Way to contribute meaningful discussion.   :rolleyes:  Strike 2.

 

 

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 12:32 PM

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 12:46 PM

I don't get you man.  I just don't.  

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 01:42 PM

Thank You, Buzz Killington.

 

Dude, that's totally going to be my name when I am a news anchor. 


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