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#141 CarterforPresident

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 05:53 PM

Greene should be wearing the "C" he deserves it. And put the "A's" on Zajac and Henrique.
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Posted 31 July 2014 - 06:01 PM

Greene should be wearing the "C" he deserves it. And put the "A's" on Zajac and Henrique.

 

Elias should keep his until he retires. Otherwise I agree with the above.


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Posted 31 July 2014 - 09:46 PM

Greene should be wearing the "C" he deserves it. And put the "A's" on Zajac and Henrique.

why would you take the A from elias.. not that hes going to lose it but i would like to see greene get the C zajac get the other A and elias is obviously keeping his
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Posted 31 July 2014 - 10:44 PM

Apologize, ment when Elias is retired, should have been more specific.

why would you take the A from elias.. not that hes going to lose it but i would like to see greene get the C zajac get the other A and elias is obviously keeping his


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Posted 02 August 2014 - 01:51 PM

subban taked 9KK

 

do you think subban>=2xGreen-1KK?


Edited by Guadana, 02 August 2014 - 01:52 PM.

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 02:31 PM

subban taked 9KK

 

do you think subban>=2xGreen-1KK?

 

If Greene were the same age then no. 


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Posted 02 August 2014 - 02:52 PM

If Greene were the same age then no. 

 

Of course when Greene actually was Subban's age he was an unproven scrub that was frequently scratched by Sutter.


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Posted 02 August 2014 - 03:08 PM

Greene should be - emphasis on should - a bigger bargain in year 1 of his contract than Subban is in year 1 of his.  But Subban should be a bargain in year 8 of his deal, whereas Greene will not be a bargain in the final year of his deal.


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Posted 02 August 2014 - 06:23 PM

capgeek says the Greene contract has a full no-trade clause.


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Posted 02 August 2014 - 06:41 PM

capgeek says the Greene contract has a full no-trade clause.


That's not surprising. A veteran type player signing what may possibly be his last contract frequently gets that respect.
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Posted 02 August 2014 - 06:42 PM

not too worried about wanting to trade away greene anyway.. we look to him for his leadership for the younger players as well..we seem to have a very well rounded type of player out of him on and off the ice which is great.
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Posted 02 August 2014 - 11:52 PM

not too worried about wanting to trade away greene anyway.. we look to him for his leadership for the younger players as well..we seem to have a very well rounded type of player out of him on and off the ice which is great.

I agree that trading Greene isn't really something I see happening anytime soon, but if in 3-4 years we find out that at least 3 of Merrill, Larsson, Gelinas, Santini and Severson are the real deal, he might be someone we'd look to trade for a quality top 6 forward. Especially if we could trade him right before he begins to decline, that would be really good for us.

There's a lot of ifs in there, but not sure that the NTC was the best idea. Wonder how much higher AAV would have been if not for the NTC. I could have lived with a 5/27.5. Looking back, I think a 4/24 with no NTC might be the ideal contract for the team. Gives us a few years to get a handle on what we have in our defenseman and prospects, but expires before we'd need to be paying out huge $$ to keep our d corps together.

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 01:06 AM

An NTC rarely stops a player from being traded. It just gives him leverage on his destination.


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Posted 03 August 2014 - 03:17 AM

An NTC rarely stops a player from being traded. It just gives him leverage on his destination.


While that's true, it's because if that leverage the player has in picking his destination that teams appear to have trouble getting assets of equal value in return for that player.

This is the biggest issue in my mind. Look at the Kesler trade; from most reports it seems as if Anaheim was the only place he was willing to go and it was because of this that Vancouver got a weak return for him.
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Posted 03 August 2014 - 11:16 AM

While that's true, it's because if that leverage the player has in picking his destination that teams appear to have trouble getting assets of equal value in return for that player.

This is the biggest issue in my mind. Look at the Kesler trade; from most reports it seems as if Anaheim was the only place he was willing to go and it was because of this that Vancouver got a weak return for him.

 

You can't sign a player like this early and not give him a no-trade clause.  It's the cost of doing business like this.

 

The difference is that Kesler wanted out of Vancouver and only wanted to go to Anaheim.  This makes things difficult on a GM.  When you go to a player and say 'We want to trade you', he probably won't name one place as a destination.


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