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#1 dmann422

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 11:06 AM

Slow day here, can't find an old topic to bump- What is your all time team? Based on a player's career as a devil (ie shanahan only has 4 years, Rockies and scouts don't count).

I admittedly don't go back to the old days but I know enough to take a stab (not sure on line combos but tried to stay true to positions):

Elias-Muller-MacLean
Parise-Holik-Verbeek
Richer-Gomez-Sykora
Pandolfo-Zajac-Lemieux

Stevens-Niedermayer
Daneyko-Rafalski
Driver-White

Brodeur
Terreri

Extras:Madden, McKay, Martin

Goalies and the top 5 defensemen are pretty easy, it's the forward group that is open to debate after a few obvious choices.
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Posted 06 August 2014 - 11:23 AM

My time started in the late 90s, so I'll stick to that time period.

Elias-Arnott-Sykora
Parise-Zajac-Langenbrunner
Lemieux-Holik-Mogilny
Brylin-Gomez-Gionta

Stevens-Rafalski
Niedermayer-Greene
White-Martin

Brodeur
Schneider
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Posted 06 August 2014 - 11:26 AM

Elias - Muller - MacLean

Parise - Arnott - Shanahan

Lemieux - Holik - Sykora

Verbeek - Zajac - Richer

 

Extras: Brylin, McKay, Langs

 

Stevens - Niedermayer

Daneyko - Rafalski

Driver - Greene

 

Brodeur

Resch


Edited by DevsMan84, 06 August 2014 - 11:27 AM.

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 11:38 AM

Elias -- Arnott -- Sykora

Parise -- Zajac -- Kovalchuk

Lemieux -- Holik - Jagr

Verbeek -- Gomez -- Richer

 

Extras:  Madden, Langs

 

Stevens -- Niedermeyer

Daneyko -- Rafalski

Driver -- Greene

 

Extra:  Martin

 

Brodeur

Schneider

 

Note:  All selections are based on career playing for the Devils (Jagr) and I also take chemistry into account. 


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Posted 06 August 2014 - 11:53 AM

Elias -- Arnott -- Sykora
Parise -- Zajac -- Kovalchuk
Lemieux -- Holik - Jagr
Verbeek -- Gomez -- Richer
 
Extras:  Madden, Langs
 
Stevens -- Niedermeyer
Daneyko -- Rafalski
Driver -- Greene
 
Extra:  Martin
 
Brodeur
Schneider
 
Note:  All selections are based on career playing for the Devils (Jagr) and I also take chemistry into account.

ohhh that second line though ugh
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Posted 06 August 2014 - 12:11 PM

Elias -- Arnott -- Sykora
Parise -- Zajac -- Kovalchuk
Lemieux -- Holik - Jagr
Verbeek -- Gomez -- Richer

Extras: Madden, Langs

Stevens -- Niedermeyer
Daneyko -- Rafalski
Driver -- Greene

Extra: Martin

Brodeur
Schneider

Note: All selections are based on career playing for the Devils (Jagr) and I also take chemistry into account.

you have jagr's one year as a devil as being enough to make an all time team?
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Posted 06 August 2014 - 12:21 PM

Slow day here, can't find an old topic to bump- What is your all time team? Based on a player's career as a devil (ie shanahan only has 4 years, Rockies and scouts don't count).

I admittedly don't go back to the old days but I know enough to take a stab (not sure on line combos but tried to stay true to positions):

Elias-Muller-MacLean
Parise-Holik-Verbeek
Richer-Gomez-Sykora
Pandolfo-Zajac-Lemieux

Stevens-Niedermayer
Daneyko-Rafalski
Driver-White

Brodeur
Terreri

Extras:Madden, McKay, Martin

Goalies and the top 5 defensemen are pretty easy, it's the forward group that is open to debate after a few obvious choices.

 

Agree on the top 5 D.  For the goalies, I think it's between Resch and Terreri at this point for #2, though it's likely only a matter of a couple of seasons before Schneider knocks them both out.

 

Terreri had at least league-average teams in front of him when he established himself (basically taking Burke's job in the process, which wasn't supposed to happen...it's an indictment of Burke as much as it is a testament to Terreri).  Resch never had a prayer with the chum he shared the ice with...there's really no understating just how awful his first few Rockies/Devils teams were.  I lean towards him as the guy behind Marty. 


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Posted 06 August 2014 - 12:46 PM

Agree on the top 5 D. For the goalies, I think it's between Resch and Terreri at this point for #2, though it's likely only a matter of a couple of seasons before Schneider knocks them both out.

Terreri had at least league-average teams in front of him when he established himself (basically taking Burke's job in the process, which wasn't supposed to happen...it's an indictment of Burke as much as it is a testament to Terreri). Resch never had a prayer with the chum he shared the ice with...there's really no understating just how awful his first few Rockies/Devils teams were. I lean towards him as the guy behind Marty.

true on the goalies, I wasn't around for Chico to see how truly bad the team was, I can only look at the numbers. But you're right in that Chico probably meant so much to those early teams.
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Posted 06 August 2014 - 12:58 PM

you have jagr's one year as a devil as being enough to make an all time team?

 

Yes.  He's basically the reason the team did not end up being one of the worst in the league.  Even at the prime of their careers with the Devils you couldn't say that about the others you would put in his place that aren't already on there.   I expect him to be just as good this year.  Even at this stage of his career he would fit in great on a line with Holik and Lemieux.  


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Posted 06 August 2014 - 02:00 PM

Elias -- Arnott -- Sykora
Parise -- Zajac -- Langenbrunner
Lemieux -- Holik - Richer
Pandolfo -- Madden -- Brylin

 

Stevens -- Niedermeyer

Daneyko -- Rafalski
White -- Greene

 

Brodeur

Clemmensen (i like his 2009th year)


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Posted 07 August 2014 - 11:04 AM

This was alot harder than I thought it would be...

 

Elias-Arnott – Sykora

Parise- Muller-MacLean
Richer-Gomez- Lemieux
Madden-Holik-Langenbrunner

 

Stevens – Niedermeyer

Daneyko -- Rafalski
Fetisov- Kasatanov

 

Brodeur

Burke


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Posted 07 August 2014 - 11:23 AM

Elias -- Arnott -- Sykora

Parise -- Zajac -- Kovalchuk

Lemieux -- Holik - Jagr

Verbeek -- Gomez -- Richer

 

Extras:  Madden, Langs

 

Stevens -- Niedermeyer

Daneyko -- Rafalski

Driver -- Greene

 

Extra:  Martin

 

Brodeur

Schneider

 

Note:  All selections are based on career playing for the Devils (Jagr) and I also take chemistry into account. 

 

Ugh I'd watch the sh!t out of this team.  


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Posted 07 August 2014 - 11:58 AM

This was alot harder than I thought it would be...

 

Brodeur

Burke

 

Not sure how you can put Burke 2nd.  He had the nice run in '87-'88, and the Devils clearly don't get to the playoffs and then win a couple of rounds without him...but he was incredibly disappointing after that.  He couldn't even hold off Chris Terreri, who could best be described as likeably pretty good...and the Devils made no secret of the fact that they wanted Burke to be their guy...they gave Burke multiple chances to keep his job, but when Terreri kept out-performing him time and time again in 1989-90 and 1990-91, the Devils eventually (and begrudgingly) had to go with the guy who gave his team the best chance to win (especially since those Devils teams had to claw their way into the playoffs).  Burke also told to the fans who dared to boo him after watching three years of Burke's lackluster play that they could "go to hell".   

 

I can understand people picking Terreri or Resch (in terms of ability they were probably pretty similar, in that they could play pretty well on good teams (Resch showed that with the Islanders), but weren't the guys who could take you to a Cup final).  Resch's Devils numbers are awful (67-148-33 record, 4.09 GAA, .863 save%...not as bad in his era as they would be today), but those numbers are a reflection of the team in front of him.  Those Devils really were THAT bad.


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Posted 07 August 2014 - 01:04 PM

For my backup it really was a decision that was down to Terreri and Resch. I picked Resch because I pictured if they both had that 99-00 team in front of them, I think we would have had more success with Chico.
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Posted 07 August 2014 - 01:06 PM

whoa whoa whoa... you guys are forgetting some key positions here.

 

Coach: Larry Robinson

 

Booth: Doc & Chico.  (really the only acceptable answer here right?)


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Posted 07 August 2014 - 01:14 PM

This was alot harder than I thought it would be...

 

Elias-Arnott – Sykora

Parise- Muller-MacLean
Richer-Gomez- Lemieux
Madden-Holik-Langenbrunner

 

Stevens – Niedermeyer

Daneyko -- Rafalski
Fetisov- Kasatanov

 

Brodeur

Burke

 

Interesting call on Fetisov.


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Posted 07 August 2014 - 01:40 PM

Interesting call on Fetisov.

 

I agree too.  I did like Fetisov but dammit I have trouble sometimes letting go of his bad decision that lead up to the GWG Matteau goal in 1994 ECF game 7.


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Posted 07 August 2014 - 01:50 PM

Not sure how you can put Burke 2nd.  He had the nice run in '87-'88, and the Devils clearly don't get to the playoffs and then win a couple of rounds without him...but he was incredibly disappointing after that.  He couldn't even hold off Chris Terreri, who could best be described as likeably pretty good...and the Devils made no secret of the fact that they wanted Burke to be their guy...they gave Burke multiple chances to keep his job, but when Terreri kept out-performing him time and time again in 1989-90 and 1990-91, the Devils eventually (and begrudgingly) had to go with the guy who gave his team the best chance to win (especially since those Devils teams had to claw their way into the playoffs).  Burke also told to the fans who dared to boo him after watching three years of Burke's lackluster play that they could "go to hell".   

 

I can understand people picking Terreri or Resch (in terms of ability they were probably pretty similar, in that they could play pretty well on good teams (Resch showed that with the Islanders), but weren't the guys who could take you to a Cup final).  Resch's Devils numbers are awful (67-148-33 record, 4.09 GAA, .863 save%...not as bad in his era as they would be today), but those numbers are a reflection of the team in front of him.  Those Devils really were THAT bad.

Simply based on the playoff run, other than Marty the Devs donot have a goalie to really look at, so I decided to go withthe guy who gave us the most exciting playoff run other than Marty...


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Posted 07 August 2014 - 01:54 PM

I agree too.  I did like Fetisov but dammit I have trouble sometimes letting go of his bad decision that lead up to the GWG Matteau goal in 1994 ECF game 7.

Probably just the rose colored glasses, I just seem to remember Fesitov & Kasatanov being a really big deal for NJ, and I could NOT put White in the top 6, Driver probably belongs, but I went in another direction...


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Posted 07 August 2014 - 02:22 PM

Probably just the rose colored glasses, I just seem to remember Fesitov & Kasatanov being a really big deal for NJ, and I could NOT put White in the top 6, Driver probably belongs, but I went in another direction...

 

Yeah I mean that is fine and honestly I had White in my top 6 as well as Fetisov until I thought about it longer and figured that Greene and Driver were better defenseman.  I also considered Albelin as well in the last spot there too.


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