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#1 MadDog2020

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 03:22 PM

On Kovalchuk, among other things: http://www.nj.com/de...ml#incart_river
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Posted 14 August 2014 - 03:26 PM

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 04:40 PM

I was just about to post on this....

 

Harris spoke about missing the postseason in 2014, stressing that he still believes in Lamoriello. 
“Lou and I are very different. We’re different ages and we’ve had different experiences,” Harris noted. “But I buy into his system and the reality is, stuff happens. It was a difficult situation before we got here. I don’t know how much of that reflected itself.

“You had a lot of complexity around Kovalchuk and some other things. It was a disappointing season. I see it. I was unhappy. I didn’t like being home watching the playoffs on TV. I wanted to be in the playoffs. That’s not lost on me. At the same time, good people and good systems can have disappointing years. We’re long term. We’re focused on making this a great franchise over the long term.”

 

Harris on the Devils missing the playoffs two straight years: “In sports something goes wrong, what do you do? The coach gets fired or the GM gets fired. Someone has to be blamed, and I don’t really buy into that. I look into things and assess them from my own point of view. I don’t do things that I think are in the long run poor for a franchise because someone wants me to do something.

“I think people change too quickly in sports, as a general matter, because they want to show the public they’re doing something. I don’t think there is any change that needs to occur right now. It’s a proven system. I’ve looked at it from the inside and I’ve looked at it from the outside. I like what’s going on. Now it’s about how can we make it better?”

 

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.....I read this as Lou better get us into the playoffs this year or I am guessing Harris may make a change.....or seriously consider it (It is clear he already has given it some thought)


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Posted 14 August 2014 - 04:58 PM

he did not state much about kovalchuk.. he said that there is no way he can return until he is 35..but i thought if he sat out for a year then he could return with only lous permission
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Posted 14 August 2014 - 05:05 PM

he did not state much about kovalchuk.. he said that there is no way he can return until he is 35..but i thought if he sat out for a year then he could return with only lous permission

 

And the permission of 29 other GMs which if he is allowed to return it will set a very dangerous precedent.


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Posted 14 August 2014 - 05:32 PM

And the permission of 29 other GMs which if he is allowed to return it will set a very dangerous precedent.

not if he sits out i thought?
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Posted 14 August 2014 - 05:41 PM

I don't think a lot of players would start taking 5 yr "retirements" in russia and come back. 

 

It would happen for 2 reasons...one a player is just incredibly greedy money wise or two like in Kovys case he is in fact Russian.

 

The way Lou worded it makes me feel like he would certainly be for bringing Kovalchuk back in the future.


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Posted 15 August 2014 - 06:10 AM


 

I don't think a lot of players would start taking 5 yr "retirements" in russia and come back. 

 

It would happen for 2 reasons...one a player is just incredibly greedy money wise or two like in Kovys case he is in fact Russian.

 

The way Lou worded it makes me feel like he would certainly be for bringing Kovalchuk back in the future.

Are you serious?  I hope that's sarcasm.  We already had an incredibly stupid thread about him coming back.  You're playing right into the media's hand when you bring up him coming back and try to make a discussion out of it.  They want you to never forget that we lost an elite scorer(Whose best games are likely behind him).  You're reading too much into it and I have no clue where you get that Lou wants him back. 

Also I don't think this is Harris saying Lou's done if no playoffs this year. 

 

Harris on the Devils missing the playoffs two straight years: “In sports something goes wrong, what do you do? The coach gets fired or the GM gets fired. Someone has to be blamed, and I don’t really buy into that. I look into things and assess them from my own point of view. I don’t do things that I think are in the long run poor for a franchise because someone wants me to do something.

 

“I’ll answer that the best way you can. He cannot come back until he is 35. He’s (31) now. You’d never look at someone coming back at 35 when he’s (31),” the GM explained.  - Lou

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Posted 15 August 2014 - 06:16 AM

Harris has sipped the kool-aid!  :koolaid:


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Posted 15 August 2014 - 06:30 AM

This is the same guy who fired 2 GMs on the Sixers in 2 years. Talk is cheap. It's a business, and if you don't produce good results(which they haven't recently) changes are likely to be made.


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Posted 15 August 2014 - 07:37 AM

And the permission of 29 other GMs which if he is allowed to return it will set a very dangerous precedent.


If he sits out a year, no need for owner approval.

Re Lou, Harris is a big analytics person supposedly. They'll tell you that the team is doing what it should be. So I don't think Lou is going anywhere.
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Posted 15 August 2014 - 09:10 AM

This is the same guy who fired 2 GMs on the Sixers in 2 years. Talk is cheap. It's a business, and if you don't produce good results(which they haven't recently) changes are likely to be made.

have to wonder if that has lou thinking that he could be on the chopping block too if things dont turn around
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Posted 15 August 2014 - 05:23 PM

This is the same guy who fired 2 GMs on the Sixers in 2 years. Talk is cheap. It's a business, and if you don't produce good results(which they haven't recently) changes are likely to be made.

 

To be exact, one GM was fired, one left.  But keep pumping your anti-Lou agenda, you've only been predicting his imminent firing for the last five years.


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Posted 15 August 2014 - 07:35 PM

How do you fire Lou after he rebuilt the team in the mold of our pseudo dynasty?

 

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Posted 15 August 2014 - 09:10 PM

'We’re focused on making this a great franchise over the long term.'

GFY you dick, we've been a great franchise long before your arrogant ass came in!
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Posted 15 August 2014 - 09:20 PM

'We’re focused on making this a great franchise over the long term.'

GFY you dick, we've been a great franchise long before your arrogant ass came in!

 

Yeah because that's what he was implying, that the Devils were sh!tty until he owned the team.  Good lord.


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Posted 15 August 2014 - 09:36 PM

'We’re focused on making this a great franchise over the long term.'

GFY you dick, we've been a great franchise long before your arrogant ass came in!

 

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You want VBK back?  The guy who was just like us, in that he cared deeply about the team and was in waaaaaaay over his head in trying to be an NHL owner. 

 

These owners have money and no qualms about putting it into the on-ice product.  This is a bad thing?


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Posted 16 August 2014 - 01:24 AM

Yeah because that's what he was implying, that the Devils were sh!tty until he owned the team. Good lord.


I don't read minds, I read words.

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You want VBK back? The guy who was just like us, in that he cared deeply about the team and was in waaaaaaay over his head in trying to be an NHL owner.

These owners have money and no qualms about putting it into the on-ice product. This is a bad thing?


Never said I wanted JVB back. Thankfully the new owners have plenty cash to make up for their disappointing attitude towards the fans.
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Posted 16 August 2014 - 09:13 AM

I don't read minds, I read words.

Never said I wanted JVB back. Thankfully the new owners have plenty cash to make up for their disappointing attitude towards the fans.


This started with you when they changed the goal song. Can you please get over it already?

Hell Lou even said/implied in TG's latest post that for the last two years of Jeff's ownership that he had to report what he was doing to the league. Were were Phoenix light.

I guess you would be ok with that as long as the goal song is still there right? I swear these owners can't win with some fans who are still butthurt over the goal song.
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Posted 16 August 2014 - 09:38 AM

If you're still pissed about the stupid fvcking goal song (and really- WHO THE fvck CARES????)or any of the other stuff the new owners did in the beginning, get the fvck over it already. Holy sh!t, some people only exist to complain, the internet proves it to me every day...

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