Sykora - 13GP - 5G - 3A - 8P
Friesen - 11GP - 2G - 3A - 5P
Sykora's doing great without Arnott, infact, Sykora's doing better then Elias. Afterall, Sykora was supposed to be the one who suffered the most during the "Post A-Line days". I'm sorry, but this trade didn't help us. Sykora's 4PPG, 2PPA could've really helped the Devils struggling PP. I like Friesen, but I wish Sykora was back. Oleg is good but he ain't scoring. I watch MightyDuck games and Sykora plays great. He has SPEED! speed he never showed on the Devils.
Now, if you could get a second chance, would you still do that trade?
Sykora/friesen Comparision
Started by Yeah, I suck, Nov 08 2002 10:49 PM
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Posted 08 November 2002 - 10:51 PM
Good Lord.
What was Lou thinking?
What was Lou thinking?
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Posted 08 November 2002 - 10:54 PM
Yes because Tivo has 6 points and a +4. So collectively the Devs got 11 pts out of the deal, opposed to the Ducks 8 pts and the Devs are a +8 in the deal, to Ducks -5.
Devs win the deal.
Devs win the deal.
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Posted 08 November 2002 - 10:56 PM
MAKE IT STOPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!! 
Seeeee? You're making me cryyyy!!!!
If we really got ripped offf, then I'm sure Louuuuuu will think something up...
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Posted 08 November 2002 - 10:57 PM
Gee....
Devils: 8-3-0=16 points
Anaheim: 4-6-3=11 points
damn that Lou!!!
although... i do miss Sykkie
Devils: 8-3-0=16 points
Anaheim: 4-6-3=11 points
damn that Lou!!!
although... i do miss Sykkie
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Posted 08 November 2002 - 11:55 PM
The best way to handle this situation is to mull over it endlessly. That will solve all problems.
Same goes for all other trades, acquisitions, waivings, etc., that the Devils have ever made.
Same goes for all other trades, acquisitions, waivings, etc., that the Devils have ever made.
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Posted 09 November 2002 - 12:37 AM
What power of fate has me trapped here responding to KD's nonsense on a Friday night?
Who knows.
Do you even think before you post, KD?
First: Your use of if A, then B logic in this post is AMAZINGLY clear. You're saying that on the Devils, as a result of Sykora's presence, would generate enough power play offense such that he would have that many power play points? Talk about If A then B, this is the best example of it I've ever seen.
Second: you are declaring the trade to be worthless after 11 games. 11 games! Give it a chance.
Third: Your use of if A, then B logic in assuming that Sykora would've come to play this year is a nice assumption. Typical of you to do that. Fact is, you can't compare two players from different teams without putting them in the proper context. Not that you would know that.
Well, I wasted 10 minutes here..
Who knows.
Do you even think before you post, KD?
First: Your use of if A, then B logic in this post is AMAZINGLY clear. You're saying that on the Devils, as a result of Sykora's presence, would generate enough power play offense such that he would have that many power play points? Talk about If A then B, this is the best example of it I've ever seen.
Second: you are declaring the trade to be worthless after 11 games. 11 games! Give it a chance.
Third: Your use of if A, then B logic in assuming that Sykora would've come to play this year is a nice assumption. Typical of you to do that. Fact is, you can't compare two players from different teams without putting them in the proper context. Not that you would know that.
Well, I wasted 10 minutes here..
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Posted 09 November 2002 - 01:42 AM
The SBT applauds your efforts, Triumph.
Perhaps with your help, KD may one day see the light.
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Posted 09 November 2002 - 01:44 AM
I think it's a little premature to say who won the deal.
Maybe you should wait a year or two and then you might have a better idea.
*cough* *common sense* *cough*
Maybe you should wait a year or two and then you might have a better idea.
*cough* *common sense* *cough*
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Posted 09 November 2002 - 01:46 AM
Now, now, Kovy.
That would be the sane and logical answer.
That would be the sane and logical answer.
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Posted 09 November 2002 - 01:47 AM
KD just got pwnd by Tri.
Standing ovation for Tri!! and a pat on the back for a job well done.
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"We cannot rank Penn State University against other schools
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That's Penn State."
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"They are the loudest and most loyal students in the country. They call this place Happy Valley?
That's an understatement tonight. This is definitely the best place on Earth. I have seen Paternoville,
I have seen these students...there is nothing like this in the country."
-ESPN College Gameday
"We cannot rank Penn State University against other schools
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"You're driving along with nothing and then it's like
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Posted 09 November 2002 - 01:53 AM
I'm trying SBT. I REALLY AM.
Ever see Pulp Fiction?
Anyone remember that part where Samuel L. Jackson near the end says to those two nitwits who are busted when they were going to rob that diner:
"I'm trying REAL HARD. Now tell your 'honeybunny' to calm down. I want you to concentrate and find me the wallet that says 'Bad Motherf*****'. Do it cool. ..."
He then says that messed up saying he always said before busting a cap in someone's ass.
SBT... you get the point
Ever see Pulp Fiction?
Anyone remember that part where Samuel L. Jackson near the end says to those two nitwits who are busted when they were going to rob that diner:
"I'm trying REAL HARD. Now tell your 'honeybunny' to calm down. I want you to concentrate and find me the wallet that says 'Bad Motherf*****'. Do it cool. ..."
He then says that messed up saying he always said before busting a cap in someone's ass.
SBT... you get the point
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Posted 09 November 2002 - 09:32 AM
Doesn't he say something like, 'now I want you to pull my wallet out of the bag.'
And the guy goes 'Which wallet is it?'
And Samuel L. goes 'It's the one that says 'Bad Motherf*cker'
And the guy goes 'Which wallet is it?'
And Samuel L. goes 'It's the one that says 'Bad Motherf*cker'
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Posted 09 November 2002 - 09:33 AM
Sometimes I think that I'm the only one here who thinks before they post..Do you even think before you post, KD?
First: Your use of if A, then B logic in this post is AMAZINGLY clear. You're saying that on the Devils, as a result of Sykora's presence, would generate enough power play offense such that he would have that many power play points? Talk about If A then B, this is the best example of it I've ever seen.
No, I didn't say that. But Sykora is really good on the PPs, that way he definetly would've helped us in the PP catagory. Not necessarily 4 PPGs, but definetly would spark some offense.
Second: you are declaring the trade to be worthless after 11 games. 11 games! Give it a chance.
Where in that post did I say it was "worthless"? I am saying that it didn't help our offense. Sykora's doing great in Anahiem, while Friesen is Freezing. Read before you reply....
Third: Your use of if A, then B logic ...
Jesus Christ Tri, can't you think of anything new...
Well, I wasted 10 minutes here..
I agree.. Damn Tri, you're getting easier and easier to stump every thread. Is it cause you're slipping, or you can't just admitt that I'm right.. I think it's both
If M, then Q logic, then R logic... give me a break...
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UhKD just got pwnd by Tri.
No.... he didn'tThank you very much
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Posted 09 November 2002 - 10:02 AM
umm yes.Sykora - 13GP - 5G - 3A - 8P
Friesen - 11GP - 2G - 3A - 5P
Sykora's doing great without Arnott, infact, Sykora's doing better then Elias. Afterall, Sykora was supposed to be the one who suffered the most during the "Post A-Line days". I'm sorry, but this trade didn't help us. Sykora's 4PPG, 2PPA could've really helped the Devils struggling PP. I like Friesen, but I wish Sykora was back. Oleg is good but he ain't scoring. I watch MightyDuck games and Sykora plays great. He has SPEED! speed he never showed on the Devils.
Now, if you could get a second chance, would you still do that trade?
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Posted 09 November 2002 - 10:43 AM
When will some people realize that team -- and in particular THIS team -- means more than stats?
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The Post dispelling myths???!! (First time for everything.)
Elias says he doesn't wonder why the A-Line was broken up and his linemates were traded. "What good would it do for me?" he asked.
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Posted 09 November 2002 - 11:29 AM
Ok, KD.. you really 'got' me there.
I think Sykora would have helped on the power play. None of the current Devils has a great slapshot except for Rafalski and maybe Tverdovsky. The fact that the Devils have no one they can put in front, and no one with a slapper that can beat a goalie consistently from the high slot or blueline does not make for a good power play combination. But just because the Devils 'need' a player does not mean they should keep him around.. too many teams do this. Lou isn't afraid to deal himself into a weakness to get rid of a problem.
You say that this trade hasn't helped us on offense. Well what was it supposed to do? Was Tverdovsky's supposed to be a defensive defenseman, and Friesen a 2 way forward? No. These are scorers. They're supposed to score. So are all the Devils. But your purely statistical comparison doesn't notice that NO Devil is scoring particularly well. The Devs have one of the worst offenses in the league so far; almost every Devil has less points than expected. So, context, next time.
You can't even think of witty insults anymore.
I think Sykora would have helped on the power play. None of the current Devils has a great slapshot except for Rafalski and maybe Tverdovsky. The fact that the Devils have no one they can put in front, and no one with a slapper that can beat a goalie consistently from the high slot or blueline does not make for a good power play combination. But just because the Devils 'need' a player does not mean they should keep him around.. too many teams do this. Lou isn't afraid to deal himself into a weakness to get rid of a problem.
You say that this trade hasn't helped us on offense. Well what was it supposed to do? Was Tverdovsky's supposed to be a defensive defenseman, and Friesen a 2 way forward? No. These are scorers. They're supposed to score. So are all the Devils. But your purely statistical comparison doesn't notice that NO Devil is scoring particularly well. The Devs have one of the worst offenses in the league so far; almost every Devil has less points than expected. So, context, next time.
You can't even think of witty insults anymore.
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Posted 09 November 2002 - 12:01 PM
It doesn't matter people, no matter how much you try to convince KD that the trade needed to be done, he still has it SET in his little heart that Sykora belongs on the team right now...
Don't waste your time, because that's just what he is - a waste of time.
Don't waste your time, because that's just what he is - a waste of time.
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