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Are you for or against uniform licenses?

  1. For (13 votes [61.90%])

    Percentage of vote: 61.90%

  2. Against (8 votes [38.10%])

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#1 LizDevil30

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Posted 16 December 2004 - 04:22 PM

Always wanted to make a poll and this article is an easy one to start one for. :D

http://aolsvc.news.a...216121409990030


Legislation Sets Stage for Uniform Driver's Licenses

By Donna Leinwand, USA TODAY

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Posted 16 December 2004 - 04:23 PM

I did it! Um and as for uniform licenses, I don't see the harm in it. As long as they can't encode tracking devices in them.
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Posted 16 December 2004 - 04:30 PM

I am for this. Of course some people always want to make every security issue into a slippery slope of personal liberty violation. It is tiring when the government tries to make us more secure that the same people always step up and say, "but 10 more steps like this and we'll have our rights violated so we shouldn't even do step 1 because it will cause step 10 making step 1 just as bad."

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Posted 16 December 2004 - 04:37 PM

Where is the money to establish this coming from???
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Posted 16 December 2004 - 04:42 PM

Where is the money to establish this coming from???

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Well I don't think it would cost much more money to just give the states a nationalized database to report to and a national DL instead of a state DL. So the Feds would have to handle to database and work out how the ID would be secured but the states would still handle at what age people can get licenses and the state would still do the physical issuing.
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Posted 16 December 2004 - 04:57 PM

It still costs money especially if the Feds require info that is not utilized on state issued licenses...for security they say but who is footing the bill? Not all states have photos for example...mine doesn't and won't need it until it expires in a few years...who is footing the bill...I mean I know that the Feds can run a deficit and it is ok however let a state like NJ run a deficit and it is a crime...where is the money coming from?
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Posted 16 December 2004 - 05:01 PM

So that's what the new NJ licenses look like.

I wouldn't mind it if it's implemented. If the gov't wanted to track me they sure don't need a national license to do it.
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Posted 16 December 2004 - 06:13 PM

I am against it. Let the federal government do their job- protecting borders- and leave the states alone. If the feds can't, or won't protect our borders, then vote them out. I am sick and tired of the feds wanting everyone else to do their job.

What a joke- the Dept of "Homeland Security" shouldn't that really be the Defense Dept and the Defense dept should really be renamed the War Dept. like it was before the 1948 change.
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Posted 16 December 2004 - 06:24 PM

If it sets up a standard Liscense format that all states follow, i have no issue with it, as it makes many things easier for people across the country in regards to spotting fakes. But, the feds should have nothing to do with it other then helping set up that universal standard.
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Posted 16 December 2004 - 09:33 PM

Where is the money to establish this coming from???

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From taxpayers.

So you don't have to worry.
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Posted 16 December 2004 - 11:48 PM

It still costs money especially if the Feds require info that is not utilized on state issued licenses...for security they say but who is footing the bill?  Not all states have photos for example...mine doesn't and won't need it until it expires in a few years...who is footing the bill...I mean I know that the Feds can run a deficit and it is ok however let a state like NJ run a deficit and it is a crime...where is the money coming from?

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How much money do you think this will cost? The States already spend a lot of money on IDs, the federal gov. is just saying you need certain security features on it. So really it will cost very little to phase in.

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Edited by Devils731, 16 December 2004 - 11:51 PM.

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Posted 17 December 2004 - 12:34 AM

731, you don't understand......this is an idea from the Bush administration, so in her mind, it's got to be wrong.
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Posted 17 December 2004 - 12:36 AM

hey anything that cuts the HELL out from moving state to state and transferring licenses when you move... it's not ALL negative....
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Posted 17 December 2004 - 10:51 AM

hey anything that cuts the HELL out from moving state to state and transferring licenses when you move... it's not ALL negative....

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That's what I'm thinking. Granted a license fee is a small thing when compared to registration and all that, but hey, I might be in New York next semester, their license is like $50 or so...
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Posted 17 December 2004 - 02:00 PM

Why do you change your license every time you move? My son has been living in Chicago for basically 9 years and he finally got an Ill license. He couldn't bear to part with his legal connection to the Garden State.

I like to show my Ocean County ID card when I fly. It drives the airport people crazy! Its printed on a pink card that really stands out. Besides, other than my passport, its the only photo ID I have. Rental car clerks have a hard time believing that the NJ driver license is for real.

My other son, who lives in Seattle and is thirty years old, was refused beverage service in California. They didn't recognize his Washington State DL.
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Posted 17 December 2004 - 02:00 PM

i agree with this, it would make buying products that require you to be a certain age easier. When i used to work for stop and shop we would only accept NY licensees, any other state we had to have a manager come over and inspect it for like 5 min. i know its a small detail really but i cant find anything wrong with this or really great.

although it will be sad not making fun of other states ID's anymore=(. i thought NY's was pretty cool, some look like they cut and pasted the pic on hehe
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Posted 18 December 2004 - 09:12 PM

i'd be in support of all driving laws being uniform across the country.

i'm sick of these kids from kansas getting their license at 12. :P

as for a uniform license? i guess i'm for it... not really sure though.
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Posted 19 December 2004 - 11:40 AM

hey anything that cuts the HELL out from moving state to state and transferring licenses when you move... it's not ALL negative....

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Don't bet on it. They'll still make you transfer your address to the new one, and charge you the FEE. This may (and I say MAY) eliminate the need for a written test in some states when you move. I can see some states considering it a matter of states rights and hanging on to it. But I see no problem with the government saying these are the documents you have to have to get the license, here is what has to be on it, and here is what it has to look like. Hell, I'd like to see THAT process standardized from state to state.
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Posted 20 December 2004 - 03:34 PM

I am against it. Let the federal government do their job- protecting borders- and leave the states alone. If the feds can't, or won't protect our borders, then vote them out. I am sick and tired of the feds wanting everyone else to do their job.

What a joke- the Dept of "Homeland Security" shouldn't that really be the Defense Dept and the Defense dept should really be renamed the War Dept. like it was before the 1948 change.

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It is the Republican ideology of "less government" ;)
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Posted 20 December 2004 - 03:38 PM

[quote name='Devils731' date='Dec 16 2004, 11:48 PM'][quote name='StarDew' date='Dec 16 2004, 04:57 PM']It still costs money especially if the Feds require info that is not utilized on state issued licenses...for security they say but who is footing the bill?
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