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#61 MaddDog

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Posted 05 December 2002 - 01:46 PM

To this day i really still dislike the O'Donnell for Mitchell trade. Sean absolutely sucked while here, and if we still had Mitchell there would be no albelin and Dano would possibly be the 7th.

Same here, I have always considered this deal to be one of Lou's rare SCREW UPS. Maybe I wouldn't dislike it so much if the d-man we got back was actually somewhat GOOD (UFA) and helped us repeat, but O'D (Part II) was pretty sh***y.

(Btw, heard that Mitchell was moved for off-ice issues rather than on ice - perhaps a 'tude problem or partying too much or?)
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Posted 05 December 2002 - 01:47 PM

Worst trade: The Bicek trade... 'cause it hasn't happened yet, and now he's even publicly declared he won't be back next year for the Devils.

I can't say I blame him.... they haven't given him a chance for how many years?
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Posted 05 December 2002 - 01:52 PM

I bet most didn't know this next one:

6/27/98- Acquired #1 1998 Draft Pick (Scott Gomez) from Dallas for Carolina's #2 (John Erskine), #2 (Tyler Bouck who bounced around a lot since then) Draft Picks.

Heh, I knew it :D . I remember going "Who the hell is GOMEZ?" and getting kind of pissed off though, when the Devs did it. I guess that I should always trust in Lou. :lol:
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Posted 05 December 2002 - 01:53 PM

They've given him a chance to make the team for what, 5 years?

Jiri Bicek was never a good prospect, and he's never going to make the NHL. If he does it will be as a 13th/14th forward. Too small, doesn't score enough, doesn't seem like a defensive player either.
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Posted 05 December 2002 - 01:53 PM

Also, Derek, where did you hear that Jokela is an offensive defenseman? I was under the impression that he was a hard hitting dman and that Paul Martin was our only offensive defenseman prospect.

I wouldn't call Jokela an offensive defenseman the caliber of say, a Rafalski, but he has some offensive abilities. His skating is decent, but he'll throw some hits too.. maybe he's more of a hybrid d.
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Posted 05 December 2002 - 01:56 PM

They've given him a chance to make the team for what, 5 years?

Jiri Bicek was never a good prospect, and he's never going to make the NHL.  If he does it will be as a 13th/14th forward.  Too small, doesn't score enough, doesn't seem like a defensive player either.


Tri, I have a higher opinion of Bicek than you do, but maybe because I've watched him in Albany over the years. Having said that, I wasn't passing judgment either way on his decision to not want to return to the Devs. He hasn't gotten a chance to play in the NHL with them so I don't blame the guy for wanting to go to another organization.
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Posted 05 December 2002 - 02:38 PM

Tri, Bicek put up decent numbers at Albany. He also did well in his recall in December 2001. I seem to remember him scoring in his first game and I think it was against Toronto.

He and Dagenais did well in their first stints.

I also remember this because MaddDog didn't get to see Jiri's goal thanks to Cablevi$ion :angry: .

It sucks that I never got those tapes I asked for :P .
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Posted 05 December 2002 - 02:42 PM

Bicek put up average numbers in Albany, and yes he did look OK during his recall in 2001. But he doesn't do anything particularly well, so he won't be an NHL player, period.
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Posted 05 December 2002 - 05:10 PM

Just to clear up the earlier posts, Calgary got Corey Millen AND Jarome Iginla for Joe Nieuwendyk.
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Posted 05 December 2002 - 06:59 PM

Did they get Iginla or the pick to get Iginla?
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Posted 05 December 2002 - 07:46 PM

THey got Iginla, hes was a Stars pick.
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