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#1 MaddDog



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Posted 13 July 2005 - 05:16 PM

Here's a cleric that obviously hated this country and now he's gonna spend the rest of his life in prison. I can't say I'm feeling too sorry for him!!!!! As far as I am concerned, he deserves everything he gets.

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Posted 7/13/2005 11:28 AM Updated 7/13/2005 12:27 PM

Virginia cleric gets life for urging war against USA

ALEXANDRIA, Va. (AP) A prominent Islamic scholar who exhorted his followers after the Sept. 11 attacks to join the Taliban and fight U.S. troops was sentenced Wednesday to life in prison.
Ali al-Timimi of Fairfax was convicted in April of soliciting others to levy war against the United States, inducing others to aid the Taliban, and inducing others to use firearms in violation of federal law.

The cleric addressed the court for 10 minutes before his sentencing.

"I will not admit guilt nor seek the court's mercy. I do this simply because I am innocent," al-Timimi said.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Gordon Kromberg said al-Timimi "hates the United States" and has called for its destruction.

"He's allowed to do that in this country," Kromberg said. "He's not allowed to solicit treason. He deserves every day he gets."

U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema said the evidence supported the mandatory life sentence. The judge had earlier left open the possibility that she would toss out some of the counts.

About 50 supporters were in court for al-Timimi, who waved to his wife as he was escorted from court. She declined to comment.

Prosecutors portrayed al-Timimi, a native U.S. citizen, has having "rock star" status among his followers, who frequently heard his lectures at a small mosque in Falls Church.

In particular, prosecutors said, the defendant wielded enormous influence among a group of young Muslim men in northern Virginia who played paintball games in 2000 and 2001. Authorities said they were a "Virginia jihad network" training for holy war around the globe.

Nine members of the group have been convicted for their roles in the conspiracy, with prison terms ranging from three years to life.

Al-Timimi's lawyers argued that their client merely suggested that Muslims may want to leave the United States after Sept. 11 because of the potential for a backlash against them.

But he was accused of telling a group of young Muslim men just days after the attack that an apocalyptic battle between Muslims and nonbelievers was at hand and that Muslims were obligated to engage in holy war. He told the group that defense of the Taliban was a requirement and that U.S. troops were a legitimate target, according to court testimony.

Several of the men who heard Al-Timimi's speech traveled days later to Pakistan and began training with a militant Islamic group called Lashkar-e-Taiba, officials said. Some testified that their goal was to obtain training that would allow them to fight alongside the Taliban, though none actually made it to Afghanistan.

Edited by MaddDog, 13 July 2005 - 05:19 PM.

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#2 thefiestygoat


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Posted 13 July 2005 - 06:40 PM

Good, I hope everyday of his life is a living hell!
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Posted 13 July 2005 - 07:15 PM

1 down, several hundred thousand more to go, within this country.. :blink:
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Posted 13 July 2005 - 07:16 PM

1 down, several hundred thousand more to go, within this country.. :blink:

Where did you get that number?
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Posted 13 July 2005 - 09:43 PM

So, how long until someone chimes in with "Kill All Muslims"? :rolleyes:

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Posted 13 July 2005 - 10:01 PM

I'm sure he'll be shanked soon enough.
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Posted 13 July 2005 - 10:08 PM

I'm shocked Rowdy hasn't blasted the authorities and America for profiling this poor Muslim.

PS They want to kill you too appeaser.
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Posted 14 July 2005 - 11:27 AM

I agree he got the very least that he deserved, since he didn't actually kill anyone, they can't give him the death penalty, I guess.

But unlike some of you, I may have a slightly different take on this. I don't see him as very different than Tim McVeigh. They both hate this country and its government and are willing to either take or incite violent action against it. And don't tell me McVeigh loved America and just wanted to change certain things about it (which I've been told by certain more conservative elements among my acquaintences but not by anyone here yet) because I don't buy it. He and this guy are terrorists, plain and simple. I have no sympathy for either of them.
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Posted 14 July 2005 - 12:49 PM

Hey- Anyone remember those "loyalty oaths" from the 50s and 60s? When I was in the Army, it seemed that every form had the same question, "Are you now or have you ever been a member of an organizations which promotes the violent overthrow of the United States government?"

Maybe we should reinstitute that.
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