85 replies to this topic

[Don]

Maybe that's the trick that Clarke is pulling. Sign every free agent in sight and trade off your players for draft picks. He ends up with a TON of draft picks and a good team.

Why other GMs are obliging is beyond me.

[LetsGoDevils]

How many games will it take Forsberg playing in the East to go out with an injury? Especially in our Division?

[Don]

How many games will it take Forsberg playing in the East to go out with an injury?  Especially in our Division?

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Well that all depends on whether Stevens is back.

[Akuma]

This entire thing just bothers me, i want to see something posted on NHL.com, or i wanna read a quote from an unnamed leauge source that fines are going to be brought against the Flyers for going over the cap. And why do analysts ignore the reprecussions of going over the cap just saying that the Flyers are going to trade JR in two days to bring them under, from everything we've heard about this CBA a team is NEVER EVER allowed to exceed the cap limit except in the case of long term injuries, unless there is something we don't know about this deal then i want something to happen here, what good is a cap in a leauge where every GM can say "Oh yea I know we're over even though we locked out the players to get that big fancy book that says we're never supposed to do that, just gimmie a few days and it'll be fine."

[sammyk]

Signings and trades have to be approved by the league do they not? I don't think they'd approve anything if it is going over the cap. So no need for fines which in other words would be a luxury tax.

[Z-Man]

They are not over the cap. Their RFA's have not signed contracts.

TSN currently has their payroll at $33 million.

Edited by Z-Man, 03 August 2005 - 07:46 PM.

[Don]

They are not over the cap.  Their RFA's have not signed contracts.

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Right. But the offers are still on the table. If today Esche, Gagne, et all run in and sign their qualifiers, the Flyers are toast. They made the offer and they are liable for them. That money is due.

[devilsadvoc8]

They are not over the cap.  Their RFA's have not signed contracts.

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I think that is our answer. Clarke may be actually right this time. (for the time being)

[David Puddy]

Technically, but what happens if all of their RFAs accept the qualifiers?

[coldply123]

The Bobby Clarke philosophy is splurge first-worry later.

I doubt this do-do bird actually has a clue what hes doing to his cap situation.

[Z-Man]

They are not over the cap.  Their RFA's have not signed contracts.

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Right. But the offers are still on the table. If today Esche, Gagne, et all run in and sign their qualifiers, the Flyers are toast. They made the offer and they are liable for them. That money is due.

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If that were to happen, you're right Don. But there's a snowball's chance in hell that all those players show up at Clarke's office tomorrow and say "I'll take it." Besides, the qualifying offers automatically expire on August 15th if the player doesn't sign them.

They're still going to have to move somebody to avoid getting to $39 million. But they're not there yet.

[HockyStr99]

looks like the Flyers are becoming the Washington Redskins of the NHL

[devilsadvoc8]

Obviously other gms know clarke's situation and hopefully will be offering bottom dollar for Flyers assets now.

Ring: Hello, Oh hi bobby. You want to trade Gagne? Yeah, I'll give you a 5th rounder.

[sammyk]

Punishment for what?

[Don]

Being ugly?

I guess everyone here is hoping that the Flyers pull a Rangers. A whole bunch of star individuals with no cohesive chemistry.

Unfortunately, they also have a good mix of youth with Carter and Richards.

[devils744]

they might have until oct 1 to get under the cap. who knows though.

[LüZZo]

they might have until oct 1 to get under the cap. who knows though.

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That seems to be the million dollar question - when do teams have to be under the cap?

It is crazy to me that this isn't public knowledge two weeks after the ratification of the CBA.

(Unless I just totally missed something)

[sykkie15]

According to Spector's:

FROM THE MAILBAG: Scott Richards writes in : "Al Morganti was on WIP (which you can listen to on 610wip.com), and Flyers F.O. guy Ron Ryan called WIP to say that Jeremy Roenick IS NOT traded to the L.A.
Kings for draft picks. Roenick assumed it was he who was moved, and Ryan said that this was only one avenue the Flyers were exploring. The Flyers are said to possibly be moving (according to WIP) Handzus (whose
contract might not be enough alone) or more likely Desjardins, whose has a large salary cap number as well. When I hear more, I will let you know but there is a definite press conference to announce the signing
of Peter Forsberg, at 2 year and roughly 11.5 mil (which means the Flyers are approx. 3 mil over the cap - and Ryan also said that the Flyers DO NOT have to get back under until almost the start of the season). "

[Joe B]

they might have until oct 1 to get under the cap. who knows though.

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That seems to be the million dollar question - when do teams have to be under the cap?

It is crazy to me that this isn't public knowledge two weeks after the ratification of the CBA.

(Unless I just totally missed something)

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it's been posted before. Actually on nhl.com's faq about the cba. No team shall be over the max or under the min at anytime.

NHL has to aprove all ransactions, I ASSUME that the tended offers wouldbn't be ratified until there is cap room, the team would have o make room before the deals get finalized, maybe that is where the fines come in. I wouldn't be suprised if they would be UFA's if they couldn't fit them into the cap, That would be good. Again purely guessing.

[LüZZo]

Thank you very much RD.

Excellent job today (that goes for all of the admins too).


So it would appear that teams have a nice window for flexiblity over the course of the next two months... interesting.